So what happens if some 3rd party program interfaces with what Blizzard has in place to have it send all your information to someone elses server? If it can already read it all how hard would it be to have another program send it and not blizzard?
[quote]...That means, software cannot prevent me from blocking or disabling it. The warden comes with the game, is not talked about or revealed, and if you try to disable it, you get disconnected from the game server within a few seconds. The software is also spyware, because it opens all other processes on the system and reads from them....In one sense, programs which target the warden could be seen as anti-spyware. Interesting. Not sure if the legal ground is there, but it smells like there is something there.[quote]I am no lawyer but I see the reasoning as flawed on both counts:The fact that you cannot play the game without the warden is NOT the same as restricting you from removing it. Uninstall WoW right now and it will be gone. Spyware would not be. You can block it at any time by turning on your firewall and stopping WoW from making internet connections. It will not damage your machine in any way if you block or remove it.If looking at your running process makes software spyware then all decent anti-spyware programs are spyware.In order for a program that attacks the warden to be 'anti-spyware' you have to show that the program is spyware in the first place, which has not been shown.But hey, sue away, blizz's lawyers need a new pair of shoes.Malware is a very big problem at this point, it's organized crimes best new trick. But this is nothing.
Damn that's some shady, low-down s**t.I wonder how hard it would be for someone to use it as a weapon, to search through peoples computers for credit cards number and bank account numbers, and then send them back to their computer.
To be quite honest, why does anyone need to be having their checkbook app or any other app running at the same time as WOW? It's kind of silly if you ask me. For those afraid of their data being sniffed, there is a very simple way of keeping your data safe... don't have any apps running while you play WOW. (Unless you use iChat or TeamSpeak for voiceChat, of course.) Since i'm on a Mac, I make sure that no apps are running when I play WOW. We want the processor to be as much dedicated to WOW as possible, especially when in Orgrimmar and other highly populated areas. (By the way... I just finished creating a Mac game www.elballo.com (yay)
Hello!There is my opinion of this little f**king spyware:I'm a huge blizzard fan, I played with blizzard games since lost vikings 1 then blizzard don't exist. I spent a lot of time from my life with blizzard games, and really a lot of it...Tomorrow i've receive my new wow and I read news like this, its a little piss me off.I can give a s**t my data stored in m$, its operating system (sorry I want to say winsuxx) only useful for games.But i really want to cut the f**king head off who invented these f**king spywares.It's not a solution from the blizzard, why they don't encrypt our MPQ files? it's better for the hackers...I think it's the news of the day and it will disappear tomorrow because who likes blizzard that will be play with their games.Eventually, blizzard lawyers already care about with this spyware and they will say X&@"+" Paragraph of my paper include this so sorry!Yeah me too!Conclusion:The problem is the world rather then blizzard and these sick people who want to watch and controll everything.Piece!MeTaLiSK (c)
now have you ever wounder why identity fraud has gone in the past 10 years? now it is easy to make a very large database of your identities with cards,passport,info,interests, patterns of interests, if blizzard wanted to do 1 of those databases what is stopping it? imagine how much 1 of these databases would fetch for a big corporate power, an endless source of customers, dig further,an0nlooker
I am one of the people that got banned last week due to this lovely ap and I am not a botter or gold farmer or the like. I have been playing for 2 years with the same acount. (1 level 60 that took me a year to level up. Tier 1 gear, avid raider and guild leader to a large guild. Not the profile of a botting account or farmer.) I can't even get Blizzard to contact me to discuss the issue. I got a form letter and no response to 8 emails, 3 phone calls and a fax to Blizzard. SO those who say this is good need to think again. I would not mind being scanned and warned if there was something, but to just get a ban with no warning or information is absolute crap.
wardaveOct 11, 2005
So what happens if some 3rd party program interfaces with what Blizzard has in place to have it send all your information to someone elses server? If it can already read it all how hard would it be to have another program send it and not blizzard?
drjonesOct 12, 2005
[quote]...That means, software cannot prevent me from blocking or disabling it. The warden comes with the game, is not talked about or revealed, and if you try to disable it, you get disconnected from the game server within a few seconds. The software is also spyware, because it opens all other processes on the system and reads from them....In one sense, programs which target the warden could be seen as anti-spyware. Interesting. Not sure if the legal ground is there, but it smells like there is something there.[quote]I am no lawyer but I see the reasoning as flawed on both counts:The fact that you cannot play the game without the warden is NOT the same as restricting you from removing it. Uninstall WoW right now and it will be gone. Spyware would not be. You can block it at any time by turning on your firewall and stopping WoW from making internet connections. It will not damage your machine in any way if you block or remove it.If looking at your running process makes software spyware then all decent anti-spyware programs are spyware.In order for a program that attacks the warden to be 'anti-spyware' you have to show that the program is spyware in the first place, which has not been shown.But hey, sue away, blizz's lawyers need a new pair of shoes.Malware is a very big problem at this point, it's organized crimes best new trick. But this is nothing.
whiteacidOct 12, 2005
Time for everyone to move over to EQ2!( let the eq2 flaming begin )
drjonesOct 12, 2005
DOOD! EQ2 LOGS MY KEYSTROKES AND SENDS TO SERVER!!!!
karrasOct 15, 2005
Damn that's some shady, low-down s**t.I wonder how hard it would be for someone to use it as a weapon, to search through peoples computers for credit cards number and bank account numbers, and then send them back to their computer.
monsoonmoxOct 18, 2005
This is like finding out that crack is bad for you. You know you should probably stop, but it's too late by the time you realize.
elballoOct 18, 2005
To be quite honest, why does anyone need to be having their checkbook app or any other app running at the same time as WOW? It's kind of silly if you ask me. For those afraid of their data being sniffed, there is a very simple way of keeping your data safe... don't have any apps running while you play WOW. (Unless you use iChat or TeamSpeak for voiceChat, of course.) Since i'm on a Mac, I make sure that no apps are running when I play WOW. We want the processor to be as much dedicated to WOW as possible, especially when in Orgrimmar and other highly populated areas. (By the way... I just finished creating a Mac game www.elballo.com (yay)
metaliskOct 25, 2005
Hello!There is my opinion of this little f**king spyware:I'm a huge blizzard fan, I played with blizzard games since lost vikings 1 then blizzard don't exist. I spent a lot of time from my life with blizzard games, and really a lot of it...Tomorrow i've receive my new wow and I read news like this, its a little piss me off.I can give a s**t my data stored in m$, its operating system (sorry I want to say winsuxx) only useful for games.But i really want to cut the f**king head off who invented these f**king spywares.It's not a solution from the blizzard, why they don't encrypt our MPQ files? it's better for the hackers...I think it's the news of the day and it will disappear tomorrow because who likes blizzard that will be play with their games.Eventually, blizzard lawyers already care about with this spyware and they will say X&@"+" Paragraph of my paper include this so sorry!Yeah me too!Conclusion:The problem is the world rather then blizzard and these sick people who want to watch and controll everything.Piece!MeTaLiSK (c)
0nlookerNov 14, 2005
now have you ever wounder why identity fraud has gone in the past 10 years? now it is easy to make a very large database of your identities with cards,passport,info,interests, patterns of interests, if blizzard wanted to do 1 of those databases what is stopping it? imagine how much 1 of these databases would fetch for a big corporate power, an endless source of customers, dig further,an0nlooker
relggNov 22, 2006
I am one of the people that got banned last week due to this lovely ap and I am not a botter or gold farmer or the like. I have been playing for 2 years with the same acount. (1 level 60 that took me a year to level up. Tier 1 gear, avid raider and guild leader to a large guild. Not the profile of a botting account or farmer.) I can't even get Blizzard to contact me to discuss the issue. I got a form letter and no response to 8 emails, 3 phone calls and a fax to Blizzard. SO those who say this is good need to think again. I would not mind being scanned and warned if there was something, but to just get a ban with no warning or information is absolute crap.
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