orlandosentinel.com — Alexandra Espinosa-Amaya isn't happy about her sentence. For four hours, the 24-year-old stood outside the Orlando Police Department Tuesday with a homemade sign, apologizing for hitting an officer. "I battered a police officer. I was wrong. I apologize," she drew on a blue poster board decorated with flowers.
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altgeeky1Jan 13, 2010
Fair enough, don't kick anyone.. but that evades the issue.The officer did not identify himself as an officer, was not in uniform, plus he was off-duty. I'm not sure she has hit a police officer in the "assaulting an officer" sense. You have to at least admit, you or I would not get such special treatment from the courts, allowing us to select an unorthodox punishment for our attackers.The police and judicial system there are a little bit wonky...
theoriginalaksJan 13, 2010
You claim I have no evidence, and then posted my evidence about two paragraphs later (concering the officer being in-uniform) . I agree to the point that I am coming off as a douche-bag, but I have never claimed otherwise. Also, as to your statement saying that "I" am being self-aggrandizing with my last sentence, I suggest you look up the definition of the word, because I was actually being facetious. However, most important of all, you have no point ...what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.But seriously, I wrote out a critique on the Digg community's complete lack of resolve and conviction. Popularity, not logic, declares morality here. You however seem to be trambling back and forth in your reply. You throw all evidence to the contrary of your point (the police report) as false, perhaps based on some misguided belief of the universality of corruption in the police force, you do not get to decide which evidence has what value without reason. You needlessly bring up protection against cruel and unusual punishment, being as you dismissed it as a possibility the very sentence before. You are correct, I was not aware of the other extensions of her punishment, but they are irrelavent because they are not egregious in anyway.You claim you don not care of the gender of the person, even though up to this point you have laid out absolutely no opinion on the level of the sentence, its a pointless statement in this context. You backtrack and now claim the punishment was cruel and unusual, even though that is demonstrably not true (this style of punishment as been used multiple times) and as you have said, the woman agreed to it.You also try a cute little tactic were you attempt to put me into a group and separate me from other people (I am now "across the aisle"). That is a hilariously nefarious tactic, the kind favored by Hitler, you nazi.Feel free to respond with what exactly you were ranting about, do you disagree with the punishment, or my assessment of the Digg community, or were you just attempting to argue by semantics with no real purpose.
mouskyJan 13, 2010
Can we do the same to police officers that break the law?
insertaliashereJan 13, 2010
I'm pretty sure that absolutely every punishment we have on the books can be considered to inflict suffering or humiliation to some degree on the person being punished.Jail time. Suffering, and it's pretty humiliating to live in a cage.Fines. Financial suffering. I can't afford to pay this fine.Community service. Humiliation, I'm being somewhat-publicly humbled.So, either name some way to hold people responsible for their crimes without inflicting any suffering or humiliation at all, or admit that there are degrees to this.EDIT: Exact text to the Eight Amendment:"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
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lunusmaximusJan 14, 2010
It's better than getting a student visa for an underwater basket weaving degree.
nyaaseeJan 14, 2010
that's what you get for bein' a drunk BIATCH Alexandra!BIATCH!
jimnorcalJan 15, 2010
What about when police officers batter a citizen when they're not suppose to? How come they always get away with it and don't have to hold a sign up embarrassing themselves? It's only fair. I think such things should apply to all public officials, including judges, senators/congressman, governors and even the president. If they do something bad, they should have to face the music just like anyone else.