computerworld.com— More than half of the women in science, engineering and IT leave the field at midcareer. Here's the reason.
Jun 16, 2008View in Crawl 4
When women hear now and then starting from their birth that they are inferior to men they start to believe it themselves at some point. Having enough confidence in the men's world is harder than many people can even think! Attitudes are hard to change...
@gryphon50 men and women are different. yes, we can preform the same tasks. no, we do not go about them the same way. is this genetic or environmental? that's the age old question and is irrelevant to the current discussion as the differences still exist.
That is a brutal misconception. Of course women have egos. Men tend more to wear their egos on their sleeves but hide their hearts, women wear their hearts on their sleeves but hide their egos. Crass generalization, yes, but I think for the most part it's true.
The way I see it in my department is the few women we have are in the field because it was marketed to them as a higher paying job. Many of them either don't have a computer at home or have a computer with no internet access or mainly just use the computer at home to do a little social e-mailing yet the only people in my department with actual technical degrees are the women. They see IT as a job and their interest in anything technical or IT related stops when they walk away from their desk. The guys I work with sit in front of a computer all day or when they're away from their machine they're talking about the latest gadget or toy they just got. None of us have degrees of a technical nature. Two of us have marketing degrees, the IT director has a history degree, and I have political science. We are all in this field because we like technology and we have it as a part of our life at work and at home. We are interested in what we're working with. From my experience those are the main differences.
You boys already gave my first comment -11 diggs, so what the hell. I've worked in IT for 20 years and I can't tell you the number of times I've had to scream down some little network engineer with a napoleon complex who needs to test my nerve before he'll trust a woman on the job. That kind of behavior just gets tiresome. I'm not anyone's mommy (to the above who assume all women want children) and I don't want to be anyone's mommy. And I don't complains to anyone, I yell when I have to or tell someone they're being an assh**e if I have to in order to do my job. But to pretend like some men (and some women) aren't sexist is starting from a ridiculous position. All you have to do is look at the comments that get negative or positive votes on this digg to see it in action. So now, let the thumbs down votes begin.
Response from girlfriend (her words, not mine):---UGH! No thanks. I worked in a nearly all-female chemistry lab for two years and it drove me insane.---
lekaheJun 16, 2008
When women hear now and then starting from their birth that they are inferior to men they start to believe it themselves at some point. Having enough confidence in the men's world is harder than many people can even think! Attitudes are hard to change...
raptor007Jun 16, 2008
The problem is they chose "gtfo" instead of "t**s".
eldridgeaJun 17, 2008
Statements like that are why.
wynjaJun 17, 2008
@gryphon50 men and women are different. yes, we can preform the same tasks. no, we do not go about them the same way. is this genetic or environmental? that's the age old question and is irrelevant to the current discussion as the differences still exist.
8270369Jun 17, 2008
That is a brutal misconception. Of course women have egos. Men tend more to wear their egos on their sleeves but hide their hearts, women wear their hearts on their sleeves but hide their egos. Crass generalization, yes, but I think for the most part it's true.
el_tacoJun 17, 2008
Child care
bronxelfJun 18, 2008
Try childfree meetups and sites like No Kidding. I've heard they do well matching folks who don't want children up very well.
itavengerJun 18, 2008
The way I see it in my department is the few women we have are in the field because it was marketed to them as a higher paying job. Many of them either don't have a computer at home or have a computer with no internet access or mainly just use the computer at home to do a little social e-mailing yet the only people in my department with actual technical degrees are the women. They see IT as a job and their interest in anything technical or IT related stops when they walk away from their desk. The guys I work with sit in front of a computer all day or when they're away from their machine they're talking about the latest gadget or toy they just got. None of us have degrees of a technical nature. Two of us have marketing degrees, the IT director has a history degree, and I have political science. We are all in this field because we like technology and we have it as a part of our life at work and at home. We are interested in what we're working with. From my experience those are the main differences.
jackieshmackieJun 19, 2008
thank you.
myrnatheminxJun 23, 2008
You boys already gave my first comment -11 diggs, so what the hell. I've worked in IT for 20 years and I can't tell you the number of times I've had to scream down some little network engineer with a napoleon complex who needs to test my nerve before he'll trust a woman on the job. That kind of behavior just gets tiresome. I'm not anyone's mommy (to the above who assume all women want children) and I don't want to be anyone's mommy. And I don't complains to anyone, I yell when I have to or tell someone they're being an assh**e if I have to in order to do my job. But to pretend like some men (and some women) aren't sexist is starting from a ridiculous position. All you have to do is look at the comments that get negative or positive votes on this digg to see it in action. So now, let the thumbs down votes begin.
zorkonJun 30, 2008
Response from girlfriend (her words, not mine):---UGH! No thanks. I worked in a nearly all-female chemistry lab for two years and it drove me insane.---
ricdesanJul 16, 2008
Bahh the geek world just doesn it all wrong. Will they never learn.