The netbooks do not have any purpose. You cannot do a single thing you cannot do with a notebook computer. They do not enable you do do anything else. They are smaller. But that is like saying a 6-inch flimsy plastic ruler is better than a 12-inch wooden ruler. Or that a moped is better than a motorcycle.You cannot walk and use a netbook at the same time. The "mobile" adjective for a netbook means you can *carry* it around. The "mobile" adjective for iPhone/iPad/iPod means you can *use* it while carrying it around. It is totally different emphasis.A netbook is simply a subnotebook computer. Netbooks will not boot so fast either; it's Windows. The Apple iPad, you turn it on and it is on. For a netbook, the "on" button is more of a "start" coming on button. Netbooks accept some gestures, but gesture support is limited in Windows 7. It is not a pervasive part of the UI design. On the iPad it is. The iPad/iPhone app developers have to support gestures by necessity because they cannot be sure users have a keyboard.
Microsoft fell for the idea of netbooks as a way to keep customers from abandoning Windows for Macs or something else as they replace their aging - and probably dying - Windows XP computers. It sounds great, at first. People on a tight budget will by a netbook because it is a subnotebook. A cost-reduced notebook, limited by Microsoft to only running 3 apps at once.Microsoft is hoping they will buy an expensive Windows 7 edition later. Dell and the other OEMs are hoping the user will buy a whole new notebook computer or desktop once the 3 apps at once feature gets to them. Until the iPad came out, the astroturfers were even telling people to illegally pirate Mac OS X, pay Dell for a netbook, and put Mac OS X on it. Well, the guys who did the pirate software kept screwing it up, and some of them got in serious legal jeopard - and now Apple has come out with the iPad. The point of the netbook+piracy scheme was to get people to blow their new notepad budget on the netbook. Microsoft still gets a tiny royalty on those, even if the customer does not buy Windows. They still pay for it - that's the "Microsoft tax".It backfired horribly. People bought more netbooks that expected and it it cratered sales of the more popular Windows PCs. It probably helped out Windows 7 numbers slightly. But not revenue so much. The dream was probably netbook customers would shell out another $499 to Microsoft for Office 2010. Apparently, that is not happening and Office is slipping out of "cash cow" status that it shared with Windows for so many years. Now, the only real cash cow for Microsoft is Windows 7.Microsoft's pipeline of cash is hanging by a fingernail, in this case - a netbook. So, the way things have turned out, they are suddenly pretty scared by this cute little iPad that has wandered in. It might eat their netbooks. It is not really going to hurt Microsoft that badly. If they lose a couple billion dollars revenue, it's a notable decrease but not that painful It rubs them the wrong way though, because they do not like to see a competitor doing well. Microsoft functions most efficiently sales-wise when it has at least 60-70 market share. Then it can use all kinds of FUD, which is psychological warfare against its own customers, and sales prospects.Right now, the FUD does not have any real supporting facts to leverage the idea that a netbook better than an iPad.First, the only way a netbook is more cost effective than an iPad is if you are going to run NOTEPAD.EXE on your netbook. On the iPad, you are going to run the 3 $9.99 iWorks apps, on netbook you are going to run the $499 Office 2010 software and like it or else. It's the only version that came out since gesture support started getting added to Windows.Second, if apple does an "I'm a Mac & I'm a PC" TV commercial, they are going to show the Mac guy walking around, talking to coworkers while taking notes, checking things off in his schedule, setting up reminders, and so on.Then, they are going to put the PC guy sitting at a quaint but very tiny little desk with a power chord, lamenting his short battery life. When he stands up to "free" himself (up to half a work-day) he is going to try to stand up and talk to people while he uses his netbook, it will not work so well. He is going to need two hands to type with, one hand to hold onto the keyboard so it's not stressing the hinge between screen and keyboard, and one more had to gesture on his touch screen. So basically, he needs 4 hands.Okay, Apple might not do a commercial anything like that but you get the point. People who just read about "parts lists" and "I/O port" differences in the two computers are being massively distracted from the main question. How can you use these two different devices, and how much will it cost you to use it. Apple is practically giving you software for the price of a song.Microsoft is charging you the price of an iPad system just for software. Your app software prices are really cheap. Windows software prices are expensive. Where is their app store? Microsoft does not really have an app store. So, they cannot afford to sell you inexpensive software online.
Netbooks are baby notebook computers. They used to be called subnotebooks, in fact. The netbook name is just the marketing term for a subnotebook. These are old technology. <a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnotebook" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnotebook</a>The price is cheaper because Intel did its homework and created the Atom processor - a graphics processor and a CPU on one chip. Apple did the same thing though, the A4 processor.Subnotebooks/netbooks are portable but not really mobile. You cannot use them well at all while you are standing up, let alone walking. If they have no touch screen, then they are simply a notebook and it is deceptive to call them a mobile device.Without a word processor, a netbook is going to be pretty useless. If all you can do is run NOTEPAD.EXE, you will regret it. MS Office 2010 is $499 and Microsoft no longer has an upgrade version. Pages, for iPad costs $9.99. In general, mobile apps for iPad/iPhone/'Touch are way cheaper than MS Windows apps, as this illustrates. Microsoft is hoping you don't notice that, buy a $299 or $399 subnotebook, and then realize afterwords you are getting socked with a $499 software bill if you want to do anything with it. Ironically, you could use Google apps, Wave, Calendar, Gmail - but I don't think that is part of Microsoft's game plan.In fact, that is probably why Microsoft has so many bad things about Google and tried to blame them for IE robbing 34 Silicon Valley high tech companies. All Google did is investigate, alert the public, and alert the authorities. Microsoft kept refering to it as the Google Hack. Well, the Google apps are a lot more appropriately priced for a low-cost notebook than $499 Microsoft Office 2010 suite is.Your netbook is just a small notebook that runs software with a big price. It's not even in the same class as an iPad. A netbook is not a mobile computer, just portable (carryable). The iPad is completely different. Your device has no touch screen. LOL, how can you even confuse it with iPad - it has nothing in common with it.
All Windows PCs run slowly after you have had them a while. The file system (NTFS and FAT) is the only one that is not self-defragmenting.. Macs, Linux, Unix -they all use self-defragmenting file systems. Because of this, reading/loading will get slower over time. Writing might get slower too.The so-called netbooks were hyped but they don't do anything a notebook does. The battery lifetimes (5 hours) are really no higher than you would expect with a bigger laptop. Many netbooks do not even have touch-sensitive displays.I do not believe the netbook does more than its designers intended. They simply wanted it smaller and cheaper to make, and it is. The software still costs the same big price as the Windows software usually does. The systems will have the same big problems with malware that desktop PCs have when they connect to the web and the net.There are already articles about how the things start up slowly too. A netbook is probably good for little kids. They have small hands, you can probably lock them down onto a few web sites, and they don't need to walk around and do mobile computing. They just need to not knock it off the desk. A little kid will probably enjoy NOTPAD.EXE more than WinWord.EXE anyway.
Fist of all, I refer you to the article "10 things netbooks still do better than Ipads" <a class="user" href="http://digg.com/d31H0zO" rel="nofollow">http://digg.com/d31H0zO</a>&quot;Without a word processor, a netbook is going to be pretty useless."What?? ok, so all they do is word processing I guess. Have you used one or are you just a moron? I also like that you assume I'm using Windows. Many of these devices came with Linux on them (gee, flexability and control of my own device, what a concept). Furthermore, as you already pointed out there are several online apps to handle word processing since that's all you do I guess. Beyond that, there are several ways to obtain office cheaper or free. In this case it's not who you know, it's what you know, and you don't know much I guess. And ya, like I'm really gonna use the f**king Ipad to write my college term paper, please. I could however do this with my netbook easily (in the airport, on the plane, on a park bench where there is wi-fi available, basically anywere, hence 'portable')."You cannot use them well at all while you are standing up, let alone walking."what the f**k are you going to do with an Ipad walking down the street that can't be accomplished with you're already expensive as f**k Iphone (or any other smart phone these days)? You're going to look like a moron walking down the street with that thing in hand. And where do you put it when you're not looking like a douche and using it while your walking? And what are you using it for walking down the street anyway? This produuct answers nothing. It's a $500 - $800 dollar crippled web surfing machine that doesn't support flash, wow, I'm all over it. But OOO, it has a touch screen, I think I just came in my shorts.And to answer your reply to my other post, the netbook did surpass what the original designers thought it would be. They were thinking it would just be a device that primarily used the 'cloud' or internet. That's why most of the originals had flash drives with low storage capacities like the Ipad. Then they found out that they could make a full on computer out of it, and it literally FLEW off the shelves. In fact, the Mac fan cult took to it quite nicely too and turned them into 'hack-n-toshes' all over the place until your lovely overlords finally made that not possible (for now) by patching the OS so it won't work with the Atom processor. (again, flexability and control, what a concept)And battery life? Why do I need more than 5 hours really? Besides, you can get another battery and switch it to double that life (yet another thing you can't do with your lovely Ipad)LOL, how can you even confuse the Ipad as something useful? Please dude, you're right netbooks do not have anything in common with the Ipad, netbooks are actually useful.
First off, I would love to watch you walking down the sidewalk while playing on your iPad. You would first of all look stupid, second of all trip, break your ankle, and smash your iPad. Also, I use a 6-inch flimsy plastic ruler as opposed to a 12-inch wooden ruler because the 6-inch fits in my coat pocket when I go to write assignments in class every other day. Same idea with a netbook, its smaller and lighter. Not to say that I'm a big fan of netbooks, but they do everything you need to do on a laptop really. Internet, music, movies, chat, email, type up papers. And assuming the iPad operates the same as an iPhone, it actually takes about a minute for the device to actually start up. When you press the button at the top it puts the device to "sleep", not shut down. It's the same as putting a netbook to sleep. Open up the screen on an "asleep" netbook and it turns on instantly.It comes down to the fact that an iPad doesn't do anything better than either an iPhone or a laptop. I can watch any video format/audio format on a netbook/laptop. I have to convert all of my movies and a lot of my music for the iPad.iPad is locked to Safari. My universities web interface for submitting assignments, downloading notes, and doing online quizes isn't compatible with Safari.Not flash compatible (this one blows my mind)No "real" tabbed browsing (also blows my mind) so if I'm filing out some form online I can't switch over to another tab to get info.Multitasking. I'll use my current situation as an example. I'm working on a calculus assignment right now with my laptop. I am playing music in the background, I have 2 pdf's opened up one on the top left, one bottom left, one with the assignment questions, the other a formula sheet. On the right side of my screen, the lecture notes. Now with all of this going on, I can still open up another browser window and go one Digg!! And when I close it, my program layout is still there! So right there the iPad can't replace my laptop for taking notes or doing homework... I could go on all day....
johnnysoftwareJan 30, 2010
The netbooks do not have any purpose. You cannot do a single thing you cannot do with a notebook computer. They do not enable you do do anything else. They are smaller. But that is like saying a 6-inch flimsy plastic ruler is better than a 12-inch wooden ruler. Or that a moped is better than a motorcycle.You cannot walk and use a netbook at the same time. The "mobile" adjective for a netbook means you can *carry* it around. The "mobile" adjective for iPhone/iPad/iPod means you can *use* it while carrying it around. It is totally different emphasis.A netbook is simply a subnotebook computer. Netbooks will not boot so fast either; it's Windows. The Apple iPad, you turn it on and it is on. For a netbook, the "on" button is more of a "start" coming on button. Netbooks accept some gestures, but gesture support is limited in Windows 7. It is not a pervasive part of the UI design. On the iPad it is. The iPad/iPhone app developers have to support gestures by necessity because they cannot be sure users have a keyboard.
johnnysoftwareJan 30, 2010
Microsoft fell for the idea of netbooks as a way to keep customers from abandoning Windows for Macs or something else as they replace their aging - and probably dying - Windows XP computers. It sounds great, at first. People on a tight budget will by a netbook because it is a subnotebook. A cost-reduced notebook, limited by Microsoft to only running 3 apps at once.Microsoft is hoping they will buy an expensive Windows 7 edition later. Dell and the other OEMs are hoping the user will buy a whole new notebook computer or desktop once the 3 apps at once feature gets to them. Until the iPad came out, the astroturfers were even telling people to illegally pirate Mac OS X, pay Dell for a netbook, and put Mac OS X on it. Well, the guys who did the pirate software kept screwing it up, and some of them got in serious legal jeopard - and now Apple has come out with the iPad. The point of the netbook+piracy scheme was to get people to blow their new notepad budget on the netbook. Microsoft still gets a tiny royalty on those, even if the customer does not buy Windows. They still pay for it - that's the "Microsoft tax".It backfired horribly. People bought more netbooks that expected and it it cratered sales of the more popular Windows PCs. It probably helped out Windows 7 numbers slightly. But not revenue so much. The dream was probably netbook customers would shell out another $499 to Microsoft for Office 2010. Apparently, that is not happening and Office is slipping out of "cash cow" status that it shared with Windows for so many years. Now, the only real cash cow for Microsoft is Windows 7.Microsoft's pipeline of cash is hanging by a fingernail, in this case - a netbook. So, the way things have turned out, they are suddenly pretty scared by this cute little iPad that has wandered in. It might eat their netbooks. It is not really going to hurt Microsoft that badly. If they lose a couple billion dollars revenue, it's a notable decrease but not that painful It rubs them the wrong way though, because they do not like to see a competitor doing well. Microsoft functions most efficiently sales-wise when it has at least 60-70 market share. Then it can use all kinds of FUD, which is psychological warfare against its own customers, and sales prospects.Right now, the FUD does not have any real supporting facts to leverage the idea that a netbook better than an iPad.First, the only way a netbook is more cost effective than an iPad is if you are going to run NOTEPAD.EXE on your netbook. On the iPad, you are going to run the 3 $9.99 iWorks apps, on netbook you are going to run the $499 Office 2010 software and like it or else. It's the only version that came out since gesture support started getting added to Windows.Second, if apple does an "I'm a Mac & I'm a PC" TV commercial, they are going to show the Mac guy walking around, talking to coworkers while taking notes, checking things off in his schedule, setting up reminders, and so on.Then, they are going to put the PC guy sitting at a quaint but very tiny little desk with a power chord, lamenting his short battery life. When he stands up to "free" himself (up to half a work-day) he is going to try to stand up and talk to people while he uses his netbook, it will not work so well. He is going to need two hands to type with, one hand to hold onto the keyboard so it's not stressing the hinge between screen and keyboard, and one more had to gesture on his touch screen. So basically, he needs 4 hands.Okay, Apple might not do a commercial anything like that but you get the point. People who just read about "parts lists" and "I/O port" differences in the two computers are being massively distracted from the main question. How can you use these two different devices, and how much will it cost you to use it. Apple is practically giving you software for the price of a song.Microsoft is charging you the price of an iPad system just for software. Your app software prices are really cheap. Windows software prices are expensive. Where is their app store? Microsoft does not really have an app store. So, they cannot afford to sell you inexpensive software online.
johnnysoftwareJan 30, 2010
Netbooks are baby notebook computers. They used to be called subnotebooks, in fact. The netbook name is just the marketing term for a subnotebook. These are old technology. <a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnotebook" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnotebook</a>The price is cheaper because Intel did its homework and created the Atom processor - a graphics processor and a CPU on one chip. Apple did the same thing though, the A4 processor.Subnotebooks/netbooks are portable but not really mobile. You cannot use them well at all while you are standing up, let alone walking. If they have no touch screen, then they are simply a notebook and it is deceptive to call them a mobile device.Without a word processor, a netbook is going to be pretty useless. If all you can do is run NOTEPAD.EXE, you will regret it. MS Office 2010 is $499 and Microsoft no longer has an upgrade version. Pages, for iPad costs $9.99. In general, mobile apps for iPad/iPhone/'Touch are way cheaper than MS Windows apps, as this illustrates. Microsoft is hoping you don't notice that, buy a $299 or $399 subnotebook, and then realize afterwords you are getting socked with a $499 software bill if you want to do anything with it. Ironically, you could use Google apps, Wave, Calendar, Gmail - but I don't think that is part of Microsoft's game plan.In fact, that is probably why Microsoft has so many bad things about Google and tried to blame them for IE robbing 34 Silicon Valley high tech companies. All Google did is investigate, alert the public, and alert the authorities. Microsoft kept refering to it as the Google Hack. Well, the Google apps are a lot more appropriately priced for a low-cost notebook than $499 Microsoft Office 2010 suite is.Your netbook is just a small notebook that runs software with a big price. It's not even in the same class as an iPad. A netbook is not a mobile computer, just portable (carryable). The iPad is completely different. Your device has no touch screen. LOL, how can you even confuse it with iPad - it has nothing in common with it.
johnnysoftwareJan 31, 2010
All Windows PCs run slowly after you have had them a while. The file system (NTFS and FAT) is the only one that is not self-defragmenting.. Macs, Linux, Unix -they all use self-defragmenting file systems. Because of this, reading/loading will get slower over time. Writing might get slower too.The so-called netbooks were hyped but they don't do anything a notebook does. The battery lifetimes (5 hours) are really no higher than you would expect with a bigger laptop. Many netbooks do not even have touch-sensitive displays.I do not believe the netbook does more than its designers intended. They simply wanted it smaller and cheaper to make, and it is. The software still costs the same big price as the Windows software usually does. The systems will have the same big problems with malware that desktop PCs have when they connect to the web and the net.There are already articles about how the things start up slowly too. A netbook is probably good for little kids. They have small hands, you can probably lock them down onto a few web sites, and they don't need to walk around and do mobile computing. They just need to not knock it off the desk. A little kid will probably enjoy NOTPAD.EXE more than WinWord.EXE anyway.
9ballsnapJan 31, 2010
Fist of all, I refer you to the article "10 things netbooks still do better than Ipads" <a class="user" href="http://digg.com/d31H0zO" rel="nofollow">http://digg.com/d31H0zO</a>&quot;Without a word processor, a netbook is going to be pretty useless."What?? ok, so all they do is word processing I guess. Have you used one or are you just a moron? I also like that you assume I'm using Windows. Many of these devices came with Linux on them (gee, flexability and control of my own device, what a concept). Furthermore, as you already pointed out there are several online apps to handle word processing since that's all you do I guess. Beyond that, there are several ways to obtain office cheaper or free. In this case it's not who you know, it's what you know, and you don't know much I guess. And ya, like I'm really gonna use the f**king Ipad to write my college term paper, please. I could however do this with my netbook easily (in the airport, on the plane, on a park bench where there is wi-fi available, basically anywere, hence 'portable')."You cannot use them well at all while you are standing up, let alone walking."what the f**k are you going to do with an Ipad walking down the street that can't be accomplished with you're already expensive as f**k Iphone (or any other smart phone these days)? You're going to look like a moron walking down the street with that thing in hand. And where do you put it when you're not looking like a douche and using it while your walking? And what are you using it for walking down the street anyway? This produuct answers nothing. It's a $500 - $800 dollar crippled web surfing machine that doesn't support flash, wow, I'm all over it. But OOO, it has a touch screen, I think I just came in my shorts.And to answer your reply to my other post, the netbook did surpass what the original designers thought it would be. They were thinking it would just be a device that primarily used the 'cloud' or internet. That's why most of the originals had flash drives with low storage capacities like the Ipad. Then they found out that they could make a full on computer out of it, and it literally FLEW off the shelves. In fact, the Mac fan cult took to it quite nicely too and turned them into 'hack-n-toshes' all over the place until your lovely overlords finally made that not possible (for now) by patching the OS so it won't work with the Atom processor. (again, flexability and control, what a concept)And battery life? Why do I need more than 5 hours really? Besides, you can get another battery and switch it to double that life (yet another thing you can't do with your lovely Ipad)LOL, how can you even confuse the Ipad as something useful? Please dude, you're right netbooks do not have anything in common with the Ipad, netbooks are actually useful.
cregan89Feb 3, 2010
First off, I would love to watch you walking down the sidewalk while playing on your iPad. You would first of all look stupid, second of all trip, break your ankle, and smash your iPad. Also, I use a 6-inch flimsy plastic ruler as opposed to a 12-inch wooden ruler because the 6-inch fits in my coat pocket when I go to write assignments in class every other day. Same idea with a netbook, its smaller and lighter. Not to say that I'm a big fan of netbooks, but they do everything you need to do on a laptop really. Internet, music, movies, chat, email, type up papers. And assuming the iPad operates the same as an iPhone, it actually takes about a minute for the device to actually start up. When you press the button at the top it puts the device to "sleep", not shut down. It's the same as putting a netbook to sleep. Open up the screen on an "asleep" netbook and it turns on instantly.It comes down to the fact that an iPad doesn't do anything better than either an iPhone or a laptop. I can watch any video format/audio format on a netbook/laptop. I have to convert all of my movies and a lot of my music for the iPad.iPad is locked to Safari. My universities web interface for submitting assignments, downloading notes, and doing online quizes isn't compatible with Safari.Not flash compatible (this one blows my mind)No "real" tabbed browsing (also blows my mind) so if I'm filing out some form online I can't switch over to another tab to get info.Multitasking. I'll use my current situation as an example. I'm working on a calculus assignment right now with my laptop. I am playing music in the background, I have 2 pdf's opened up one on the top left, one bottom left, one with the assignment questions, the other a formula sheet. On the right side of my screen, the lecture notes. Now with all of this going on, I can still open up another browser window and go one Digg!! And when I close it, my program layout is still there! So right there the iPad can't replace my laptop for taking notes or doing homework... I could go on all day....
center311Mar 29, 2010
yeah ipad is garbage