blogs.reuters.com — Publicly, Senate Democratic leaders say they are only pushing off debate and consideration of a comprehensive climate change bill until spring. But it is hard to get a major bill passed in a Democrat-controlled Senate when the Democratic majority leader of the Senate wants the bill to go away.
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mactackle52Nov 19, 2009
Correlation does not imply causation.
yanarixNov 19, 2009
the problem being who decides who gets how much? the politically favored get to keep on polluting as much as they like and even get to sell off excess credits to the politically unfavored- its outright insanity, a lobbyist paradise.
theavenger3Nov 19, 2009
@WosatExcept an article stating that the CBO numbers are serious just hit the Digg front page.I wish you were right and everyone knew these numbers are b.s.Try telling your liberal friends on Digg not to be so naive.
isenborgNov 19, 2009
This story gives me hope that American's are beginning to wake up.
Closed AccountNov 20, 2009
@DankBuddz:Uhhh yeah, there's plenty to draw on. How about the trillions of instances where voluntary, mutually beneficial transactions have been made? Or better yet, the history of the US -- became independent in 1776 and 150 years later was the wealthiest country in the world. All with a relatively non-intrusive government, how'd that happen?Free markets are about more than just money. I'm going to walk out on a limb and say that you like to smoke weed. Well, how does that weed get to you? It's through an interconnected web of producers that get you a product that you demand. You don't have to know all the steps inbetween, you just know your dealer. Sounds like a mutually beneficial relationship to me. Wait, doesn't the government make smoking weed illegal? They're doing a great job of trying to stifle the free market through their War on Drugs, I hear it's working great. You're right DankBuddz, we should let them tell us what to do! ARrrr I don't want to have to make decisions for myself!@drunkirish you're right the Republicans did it too (government). And it's not just GM, it's probably hundreds of bloated old dinosaurs that would be out of business if the government wasn't propping them up. Your tax dollars at work. @archiesteelNot even close bro. 19th Century England was anything but free market. Did they still have kings then? I don't know (seriously).Here's a question for you: why don't we still live in conditions like 19th Century England? Why do we have refrigerators, cars, computers, etc? And why did these technologies become unleashed in the last century? It wasn't like the Earth suddenly gave us microchips.Businesses that only look at short-term profits get exited from the market pretty quickly. It's the long-term strategists that stick around. So pretty much the opposite of what you said. Ever heard of Levi jeans, Macy's, Pfizer, Siemens,or John Deere? Each of those businesses are over 150 years old. Please change your schemas accordingly.The Bottom Line, bitchesssss -------------------------------------------Evolution is to the animal kingdom as free markets are to business. To believe one and not the other is to have inconsistent thought; they're the same thing.
achansen121Nov 20, 2009
Evolution doesn't create super-humans or cure all diseases. That's why we have medicine.The free market doesn't work for everything, that's why we have regulations.
achansen121Nov 20, 2009
Tell me what's cheaper. Creating cables that go to every single house, or government regulation.The government isn't the most efficiently run system by any means, but it's much better than forcing every telecoms company to build it's own infrastructure to compete.
thirdnormalNov 22, 2009
> Time to buy solar panels folks. Isn't this the goal of Cap and Trade? It places incentives to produce power through clean means.In your scenario, the owner of a clean power plant could just tell the wall street extortionists to take a hike. They won't need the carbon credits. The owner of the dirty, polluting, plant will be faced with higher operating costs and will be at a competitive disadvantage.You don't seem to like Cap and Trade, but at least you think it will be effective.