daringfireball.net— Interesting story about why apple makes some of the choices it makes, specifically why copy and paste seems omitted from the iPhone.
Aug 9, 2007View in Crawl 4
"Microsoft tells you what you may and may not do with your OS and they keep you inside a tight little box."This argument leads me to believe that you have no idea which side you are trying to defend. Microsoft, not Apple, is the one that is constantly restricting users? Reality Distortion Field....ENGAGE!
Apple has no problem with obscure, undiscoverable methods for basic actions. This is the company that routinely picks hotkeys that require you to press three or more keys at once. And that has hidden menu items that only appear if you press modifier keys while the menu's open.Ever try resizing a Mac OS window from the left side to get it out of your way? First, roll all the way down to the lower right corner of the window and resize it from that little triangle, estimating how far to go. Now roll all the way back up to the title bar so you can move the window itself. Size not right? Do it all over again.So don't give them too much credit.
apple has done just fine without you as a consultant, so anything you think is really irrelevant. also, a hint: adding modifiers like "stupid," "rampant fanboyism," and "morons" completely erodes any of the valid arguments that never existed in your post.
as an additional point to sudowrestler's comment of :" Apple didn't hypnotize me into thinking that this Mac was what I wanted. It *was* what I wanted. Nice, fast little Unix-based notebook with an efficient, well thought out GUI. "I have been operating as a software engineer / analyst programmer since the 1990's - and ( up until January of this year ), I have been developing in the microsoft world ( yes, you actually could write business applications that ran in DOS and with no Windows in sight ).In the last few years I have been developing in the Linux and SCO Unix world, and decided that my next laptop was going to run a Unix based O/S.We have Linux servers at work, and I tried a few Linux distros on my desktop to see if I could just live with a dual boot Windows / Linux laptop desktop configuration.Then a work colleague gave me a demo of his MacBook laptop - and just trying it out for a few hours sold me on going with Apple for my next laptop.I have had my MacBook Pro now since January - and I can tell you that using OSX has made me a complete convert.Once you use OSX for developing applications, you wil NEVER go back.PS - I have no anti virus or spyware checking apps installed, since it's BSD Unix, and is completely security hardened out of the box.To all those about to say " how do you know you don't have any viruses then ? " - well that's easy, I run a little utility which notifies me of any attempts to connect out to any outside port - and, apart from OSX Software Update - there is NOTHING trying to connect anywhere unless I tell it to.OSX ( and, by association, Apple ) absolutely ROCK !
That's a specious argument. If you suppose for a second its true then they should have added text selection, then you "tap on the selected text and choose what to do with it from the menu"And this business about "forcing users to do the right thing now, then enable them to do what they want" (with arrow keys) later is a crock. If everyone adopted the product when the feature was missing it might be partly believable, but apple isn't sending out arrow-less keyboards to anyone who is a first time user today.I don't buy it.
I use an HTC Universal, and before that I used an HTC Himalaya. These both have touch screens, and they both have copy and paste. It works really well, even without a stylus (a fingernail is just as good for accurate selection). You just drag over the text you're interested in to select it, then click on it for a drop-down menu, and select copy/paste/cut/whatever.It just works. Isn't that what Apple products are supposed to do?
norse77Aug 10, 2007
Enough with the iPhone already, hey, I took a s**t this morning let's talk about that.
bigdoofAug 10, 2007
"Microsoft tells you what you may and may not do with your OS and they keep you inside a tight little box."This argument leads me to believe that you have no idea which side you are trying to defend. Microsoft, not Apple, is the one that is constantly restricting users? Reality Distortion Field....ENGAGE!
subtleAug 10, 2007
Hopefully it will be an off button.
Closed AccountAug 10, 2007
Apple has no problem with obscure, undiscoverable methods for basic actions. This is the company that routinely picks hotkeys that require you to press three or more keys at once. And that has hidden menu items that only appear if you press modifier keys while the menu's open.Ever try resizing a Mac OS window from the left side to get it out of your way? First, roll all the way down to the lower right corner of the window and resize it from that little triangle, estimating how far to go. Now roll all the way back up to the title bar so you can move the window itself. Size not right? Do it all over again.So don't give them too much credit.
Closed AccountAug 10, 2007
apple has done just fine without you as a consultant, so anything you think is really irrelevant. also, a hint: adding modifiers like "stupid," "rampant fanboyism," and "morons" completely erodes any of the valid arguments that never existed in your post.
mrbitchAug 11, 2007
as an additional point to sudowrestler's comment of :" Apple didn't hypnotize me into thinking that this Mac was what I wanted. It *was* what I wanted. Nice, fast little Unix-based notebook with an efficient, well thought out GUI. "I have been operating as a software engineer / analyst programmer since the 1990's - and ( up until January of this year ), I have been developing in the microsoft world ( yes, you actually could write business applications that ran in DOS and with no Windows in sight ).In the last few years I have been developing in the Linux and SCO Unix world, and decided that my next laptop was going to run a Unix based O/S.We have Linux servers at work, and I tried a few Linux distros on my desktop to see if I could just live with a dual boot Windows / Linux laptop desktop configuration.Then a work colleague gave me a demo of his MacBook laptop - and just trying it out for a few hours sold me on going with Apple for my next laptop.I have had my MacBook Pro now since January - and I can tell you that using OSX has made me a complete convert.Once you use OSX for developing applications, you wil NEVER go back.PS - I have no anti virus or spyware checking apps installed, since it's BSD Unix, and is completely security hardened out of the box.To all those about to say " how do you know you don't have any viruses then ? " - well that's easy, I run a little utility which notifies me of any attempts to connect out to any outside port - and, apart from OSX Software Update - there is NOTHING trying to connect anywhere unless I tell it to.OSX ( and, by association, Apple ) absolutely ROCK !
hobophobeAug 11, 2007
That's a specious argument. If you suppose for a second its true then they should have added text selection, then you "tap on the selected text and choose what to do with it from the menu"And this business about "forcing users to do the right thing now, then enable them to do what they want" (with arrow keys) later is a crock. If everyone adopted the product when the feature was missing it might be partly believable, but apple isn't sending out arrow-less keyboards to anyone who is a first time user today.I don't buy it.
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sampablokuperSep 18, 2008
I use an HTC Universal, and before that I used an HTC Himalaya. These both have touch screens, and they both have copy and paste. It works really well, even without a stylus (a fingernail is just as good for accurate selection). You just drag over the text you're interested in to select it, then click on it for a drop-down menu, and select copy/paste/cut/whatever.It just works. Isn't that what Apple products are supposed to do?