freesoftwaremagazine.com — By abandoning their desktop users, Red Hat has effectively shot itself in the foot. Funnily enough, they kept on chasing the mirage of thousands of soul-less corporate customers with the real money. However, the bleeding didn’t stop altogether, and behind those faceless corporations there are thousands of system administrators who now use Ubuntu
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rival138Aug 2, 2006
yeah, i had troubily understandingily that too.
mbabauerAug 2, 2006
I'll +digg this. Basically what I said up top, only worded slightly different. I see a LOT of decisions that are made not because its technically correct, but rather politically correct.Remember, it all comes down to what the man/woman holding the purse strings thinks. If you don't have funding, its not going to fly.
Closed AccountAug 2, 2006
Me me me!-An Arch Linux User
blackforgeAug 2, 2006
Things have improved in the RPM side of things now that yum has been put into use. Works a lot like apt. Add your repositories, etc.
tsuroerusuAug 2, 2006
@ nofxjunkee"sorry, I ditched rpm in my early days of using linux and now that I know Portage and apt I have no desire to ever use an RPM distro again. every time I ask if things have changed, I get no answer. what's RPM like these days? if it's fixed then I would consider trying fedora, but I'm happy with gentoo and ubuntu."Oh dude, it's like night and day! RPM is painless these days, it's no harder to deal with than Debian is, to tell you the truth I havn't had a single dependency issue in over 1½ years now.Comparing the command "rpm" to "apt-get" is never a fair comparison, it would be the same to compare "dpkg" to "yum" or "smart". "apt-get" is kind of a wrapper for dpkg, it solves the dependencies and downloads packages etc. etc. and after that, it hands the package that it has downloaded to dpkg which is the thing that outputs the "Setting up" messages. I don't know of anything considering to be the "official" wrapper for RPM, there are various which work very well, Red Hat, and this includes Fedora, uses YUM out of the gate, there's also a new one, which has been in development for two years now and works very well, called Smart which actually also works on Debian, and that is very apt-get-like, example: "smart update && smart upgrade".SUSE has it's own package management, which currently still feels sorta alpha/beta, but it's getting better and should be very cool once it's solid. Mandriva has their urpmi system, which again is not too big a deal to use. Generally you can use Smart on all RPM-based distros, and it's a really good way to install stuff.If you like how quick apt-get can be, you may be disaappointed with YUM, as it doen't that a lot of information so it has to kinda regenerate it everytime it is being used, but then try Smart, I think the packages for it is in the Fedora Extras repository.
ucg1Aug 2, 2006
Sorry for the trolling, but calling a Linux distro trendy was too irresistable for me. Mod my last post down if you wish.Personally, I think its awesome that any Linux distro is getting this much attention, especially one that is Debian-based. There has never been a point in the history of Linux where any distro has ever received this much attention. There are people saying "I've tried Linux many times before, but this is the distro that finally worked for me." I think that's great. Any Linux distro being popular is awesome for Linux adoption in general.
ubuntudemonAug 3, 2006
Mark Shuttleworth's reply :<a class="user" href="http://digg.com/tech_news/Mark_Shuttleworth_Rumours_of_Red_Hat_s_demise_are_somewhat_exaggerated">http://digg.com/tech_news/Mark_Shuttleworth_Rumours_of_Red_Hat_s_demise_are_somewhat_exaggerated</a>