Google may be "awesome" but if they don't contribute enough to the right coffers they are prime targets for coercion by the strong arm of the Obama's enforcers."Resistance Is Futile"
If morons like you would stop shouting about stupid s**t that you quite obviously know very little about, and just let smarter, better people take care of things, this country would be a lot better place.
@HonoredMule, google could have helped you find the answers to your burning questions... But I'll gladly help you navigate through this mess!Our Federal Government, Congress specifically and the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency both acted to make these state and local ordinances illegal and to prevent their enforcement. Then our court system ruled that these laws are preempted under Article VI of the United States Constitution by the National Bank Act.So yeah!!! Freedom for you, freedom for me, freedom for fees... Not cool at all.
Everybody is indexing the same exact webpages, some happen to just be better "sorting" it than others. Google happens to do it best right now.
I think google is smart and good-willed enough to be open about everything necessary for a full-fledged investigation. I don't have a doubt in my mind that google will cooperate with the DOJ so much better than Microsoft did, and eventually, if there is justice, this will all blow over with google settling on killing any mildly anti-competitive practices. If this is a struggle to control and destroy the flow of free and available information as an effort fueled by lobbyists, then Google will cower on their knees at the feet of the DOJ and be crushed.
@HonoredMule, very true. I too tend to be very xenocentric sometimes and think everyone is American. I apologize for that and am trying to remember there is a whole world out there!!! ;)
Yeah your lobbying argument would be valid if there were any significant changes to the antitrust laws in the past 10 years, which there haven't been. The only major changes that have come were in the form of court decisions, and changes from the appointed head of the governmental agencies. Nothing from Congress though. And no, I was acknowledging that antitrust law is not perfect BECAUSE there are some things that do deal with politics (such as choice as to enforcement of mergers by the heads of the department and the market concentration index). However, for the most part, it is an area of law that was largely crafted by judicial interpretation through the lens of law and economics, and that is how courts analyze an antitrust decision. There are still issues of fact that need to be proven, and there are still many preliminary matters that must be done before any action can move forward.
But now you're just arguing over semantics and not the actual legal standard. If you had actually viewed the DOJ standard, you would see how clearly laid out the standard is. Whether or not they follow that standard is an entirely different issue.
rebradJul 21, 2009
Google may be "awesome" but if they don't contribute enough to the right coffers they are prime targets for coercion by the strong arm of the Obama's enforcers."Resistance Is Futile"
fredfredricksonJul 21, 2009
If morons like you would stop shouting about stupid s**t that you quite obviously know very little about, and just let smarter, better people take care of things, this country would be a lot better place.
oldhickJul 21, 2009
@HonoredMule, google could have helped you find the answers to your burning questions... But I'll gladly help you navigate through this mess!Our Federal Government, Congress specifically and the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency both acted to make these state and local ordinances illegal and to prevent their enforcement. Then our court system ruled that these laws are preempted under Article VI of the United States Constitution by the National Bank Act.So yeah!!! Freedom for you, freedom for me, freedom for fees... Not cool at all.
phrstbrnJul 22, 2009
Everybody is indexing the same exact webpages, some happen to just be better "sorting" it than others. Google happens to do it best right now.
kungfuj35u5Jul 22, 2009
I think google is smart and good-willed enough to be open about everything necessary for a full-fledged investigation. I don't have a doubt in my mind that google will cooperate with the DOJ so much better than Microsoft did, and eventually, if there is justice, this will all blow over with google settling on killing any mildly anti-competitive practices. If this is a struggle to control and destroy the flow of free and available information as an effort fueled by lobbyists, then Google will cower on their knees at the feet of the DOJ and be crushed.
oldhickJul 22, 2009
@HonoredMule, very true. I too tend to be very xenocentric sometimes and think everyone is American. I apologize for that and am trying to remember there is a whole world out there!!! ;)
nattybumpoeJul 23, 2009
Yeah your lobbying argument would be valid if there were any significant changes to the antitrust laws in the past 10 years, which there haven't been. The only major changes that have come were in the form of court decisions, and changes from the appointed head of the governmental agencies. Nothing from Congress though. And no, I was acknowledging that antitrust law is not perfect BECAUSE there are some things that do deal with politics (such as choice as to enforcement of mergers by the heads of the department and the market concentration index). However, for the most part, it is an area of law that was largely crafted by judicial interpretation through the lens of law and economics, and that is how courts analyze an antitrust decision. There are still issues of fact that need to be proven, and there are still many preliminary matters that must be done before any action can move forward.
nattybumpoeJul 23, 2009
But now you're just arguing over semantics and not the actual legal standard. If you had actually viewed the DOJ standard, you would see how clearly laid out the standard is. Whether or not they follow that standard is an entirely different issue.
aynooriAug 10, 2009
Whenever a company grow into huge size government starts getting afraid, communist always do and now america...