I have an e1505 and was also pissed that wireless didn't work with the live cd. Then I spent a minute on ubuntu forums and read why that is the case and how it doesn't affect the upgrade. I upgraded and it went flawlessly. After one restart I had the exact same desktop as before, except is was the latest OS (and my mouse cursor went from red to white(?)).
Agreed, wireless out the box is still no go. I too know the ndiswrapper gettyup, but if all of us that don't have working wifi out the box, why is the ndiswrapper not integrated into the install somehow? In fact the help docs from livecd say to install ndisgtk, but that package is not available.The two usb dongle's that didn't work (out the box) for me are the USR805422 and LinksysWUSB54GSC.
In the case of Linux, the actual operating system takes far less than 5-6 GiB. That takes maybe about 500 MiB (or even far less if you skip the GUI). The rest is taken by applications, servers, development tools, etc, etc.
Only thing I could say in defense of Vista, here, is at least it says "Do you have drivers to install for hardware?" and lets you click a button and put in a disk.... however, putting in Dell's driver CD/DVD is bunk (at least it didn't work for me, but I don't remember if I went through the right folders). Just as a note, though, you can install drivers from CD/DVD, flash drive/usb external hd and floppy. I'd make the same bet and win for certain if it were XP rather than Vista--but that's not the point here.I'd say someone's mom could install Ubuntu 7.xx just fine.... but their spangly wireless adapter card would work, their sound wouldn't work (probably).
It's not a surprise, but it's also not alright that software (including OS) programmers aren't optimizing their stuff just because they "don't have to; new computers can run it".I'm also interested to know what you think are amazing things Vista does. I haven't found anything particularly amazing about it and I want to know if I'm missing out.
slugicideOct 22, 2007
I have an e1505 and was also pissed that wireless didn't work with the live cd. Then I spent a minute on ubuntu forums and read why that is the case and how it doesn't affect the upgrade. I upgraded and it went flawlessly. After one restart I had the exact same desktop as before, except is was the latest OS (and my mouse cursor went from red to white(?)).
dsb1Oct 22, 2007
Agreed, wireless out the box is still no go. I too know the ndiswrapper gettyup, but if all of us that don't have working wifi out the box, why is the ndiswrapper not integrated into the install somehow? In fact the help docs from livecd say to install ndisgtk, but that package is not available.The two usb dongle's that didn't work (out the box) for me are the USR805422 and LinksysWUSB54GSC.
init100Oct 24, 2007
In the case of Linux, the actual operating system takes far less than 5-6 GiB. That takes maybe about 500 MiB (or even far less if you skip the GUI). The rest is taken by applications, servers, development tools, etc, etc.
hackmyballsOct 28, 2007
Good luck finding bonzy buddy there pal
dalyricalgNov 7, 2007
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yetanothercrocNov 20, 2007
Why on earth did you try dapper? Thats like me "Trying windows" by installing windows 98. A lot has happened in Linuxland in the last year.
dyreJun 25, 2008
Only thing I could say in defense of Vista, here, is at least it says "Do you have drivers to install for hardware?" and lets you click a button and put in a disk.... however, putting in Dell's driver CD/DVD is bunk (at least it didn't work for me, but I don't remember if I went through the right folders). Just as a note, though, you can install drivers from CD/DVD, flash drive/usb external hd and floppy. I'd make the same bet and win for certain if it were XP rather than Vista--but that's not the point here.I'd say someone's mom could install Ubuntu 7.xx just fine.... but their spangly wireless adapter card would work, their sound wouldn't work (probably).
dyreJun 25, 2008
It's not a surprise, but it's also not alright that software (including OS) programmers aren't optimizing their stuff just because they "don't have to; new computers can run it".I'm also interested to know what you think are amazing things Vista does. I haven't found anything particularly amazing about it and I want to know if I'm missing out.