youtube.com — Why Do You Have To Criminalize People To Coax Them Into A Plan That's Fabulous? WATCH NOW!! THEY TRYING TO PASS THIS IN THE SENATE MONDAY! IRS is the anchor for the plan, this letter to Rep. David Camp says citizens who dont participate in government health plan, Section 7201 – states fines up to $250,000 and/or imprisoned for up to five years!
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ikorkyiNov 9, 2009
if that's just federal, 33% went towards military funding24% went towards active government services24% went towards social security19.5% went towards income security16% went towards medicare12.9% went towards non-medicare health costs12.5% went towards paying off interest
Closed AccountNov 9, 2009
Yea that's what I meant by allowing for.
mrkmrkNov 10, 2009
"Thanks -- that clarified things perfectly. You are one f**king flat-out liar. "I'm not. A life lived without morals is not a life I want to live. I will do anything I can to keep living, but I will not break my moral code. You might not have any sense of morals, but that doesn't mean that people who do are all liars."If you got a life-threatening diagnosis you would take help from wherever it came and then try to reconstruct the shreds of your moral relativism however you could after the fact."Moral relativism? That's funny, because I'm an objectivist. As I see it, I'm the one who doesn't compromise his morals even in the face of tragedy, and that is the complete opposite of moral relativism."The only entertaining part of this discussion is that you have a forty-percent chance of actually being diagnosed with cancer. Much higher if you include having a heart attack or a stroke. And on that day you will think of me, because that's when we'll both know you lied. I know it now, you'll know it then.Then again, I think you know it now too."Very, very deep. "You're wrong! You'll see!""Car accident victims left in the street to die because of their bank account? The poor shut out of care because they're not profitable or pitiable?Go preach your empty tin-pot philosophy to your friends kid, the rest of us grown ups are trying to have a discussion."Way to ignore the far-more likely scenarios of the people being paid for by charities or working something out with their doctors. Nonetheless my friends all understand that personal responsibility is a virtue, not a vice--and their kids will, as well.
nsresponderNov 10, 2009
" Is it really that hard to understand?"I understand it fully, sunshine. I understand that it's another horrendously expensive power-grab.-jcr
henri3Nov 10, 2009
photoshopwiz, If this insurance extortion does pass, I feel the government will start everyone out with an insurance card but will later own insist that everyone have a RFID chip placed on the person.
photoshopwizNov 10, 2009
there you have it ... I agree ... a national ID card with a chip !Also, they want to make the middle class totally dependent on them ...Confessions of an ObamaCare Backer ~ A liberal explains the political calculus.<a class="user" href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704795604574522680235765894.html?mod=rss_opinion_main" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527487047 ...</a>ObamaCare serves the twin goals of "making the United States a more equitable country" and furthering the Democrats' "political calculus." In other words, the purpose is to further redistribute income by putting health care further under government control, and in the process making the middle class more dependent on government. As the party of government, Democrats will benefit over the long run.
Closed AccountNov 11, 2009
OT but you need to see this. Do yourself a favor, learn your states code of criminal procedure and states penal code. Get familiar with the Constitution of the United States as it is the basis for all laws in the US as well as the states Constitutions Watch this video<a class="user" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIoyJ-LyAaE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIoyJ-LyAaE</a> and understand that this crap is going on and getting worse. If you do not know the law and your rights these cops, judges even your attorney ain't gonna help you. Attorneys are tied to the states BAR and the BAR is tied to the courts. If you do not fight for those laws and rights you'll be eaten alive.