video.google.com — Bush claims he needs NSA wire tapping to break up terrorist networks but terrorists are not using the phone network Bush is tapping. They ... all are using private voice over IP internet phones (VoIP) that can't be tapped. This video explains how it works. And, how you can set up your own.
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kcasperOct 23, 2006
We aren't talking about vonage. The video was about two or more points setting up secure asterix servers. The NSA would need years of super computing time to decypt a couple messages put over such a setup. All a terrorists would need is a computer at each point that can dial a phone number. An ISP would be better yet, but not required. NSA won't be able to decode the encrypted stuff fast enough to make it worth while.
ogopogoOct 23, 2006
Wrong answer:"According to the Cain and Abel web site (<a class="user" href="http://www.oxid.it/cain.html),">http://www.oxid.it/cain.html),</a> the program can decode calls in uLaw, ALaw, ADPCM, LPC, GSM, iLBC and a host of other codecs. Of course, it can't interpret any streams that are encrypted, so it's still nearly impossible to record a Skype call from another host."-note .."it can't interpret any streams that are encrypted"
jbondOct 23, 2006
"Skype has a back door."Proof please. Repeating this statement doesn't make it true.It wouldn't surprise me if the interface between Skype and the POTS has a tap when you do Skype-In or Skype-Out to make calls to the regular phone system. I'd be very surprised if there's any way for a Skype to Skype call to be intercepted and de-crypted. If there is, we need to know. Now because Skype-Skype calls go direct between the two participants with no centralised server involved one or other end would have to copy the conversation to a 3rd party snoop. There's been enough traffic analysis of Skype that I think we would have seen this. But then there's Skype's use of Supernodes. And conceivably a Supernode could be configured to be a man in the middle. But you'd have to try and ensure that you got used by the two parties. And you still have to decrypt the conversation.Set against all this, the USA is not the only country that requires the ability to tap. But given that eBay is in the USA, you have to think that they're going to get hit eventually if they haven't already. It's interesing to speculate as above exactly how a skype to skype tap would work and see if it's even possible.But for the moment, if you think Skype has a back door, prove it and tell us.
akiraxxxOct 23, 2006
inv1ctus:re:"The US government is not as ignorant as you think - they're as ignorant as they want you to think."Have you ever actually hear the President speak?On a side note, while I find the policies and behavior of this government to be worthy of war crimes, I also don't discount their resolve and ability to deceive. For example, does anyone actually know who created, owns and maintains the Asterisk software? I ask this not just as a rhetorical question, but to really ask for input. Do we know, for certain, that they are not in league with the government? I only voice these paranoid ramblings because I would ask myself the same question whenever someone gave me a "great new anonymizer site or proxy server." Do you really know who runs it?/tinfoil hat
quetranzaOct 23, 2006
Thank god we've found a way for terrorists to communicate safely and without intrusion. Thanks, nerds!
zymurgistOct 23, 2006
I remember my uber-conservative co-worker giggling about an article concerning the NSA stopping or catching a terrorist a few months ago with the wiretapping system. I don't remember it, but for some reason I thought it had something to do with London. However, I went searching for the article to refresh my memory, but I could not find any such article. I even checked the NSA website but no mention of this supposed foilling of plans. I am now questioning my own sanity as to whether this article even existed, and now believe that the government has brainwashed me into believing such a thing happened. Thanks a lot for the paranoia
joybranOct 23, 2006
Is a BRAVO bad form? If not, BRAVO!
jfairOct 24, 2006
@vvaduvaBut George Tenet told us the idiotic and incorrect information was a "Slam Dunk"!