torrentfreak.com — As you have read here already, a joint team of Dutch and British police were involved in 'Operation Ark Royal', to take down the music torrent site Oink. This action however, has brought lots of questions, with very few answers. Questions such as "Why Are The IFPI and BPI Allowed To Hijack OiNK?"
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fredfredricksonOct 24, 2007
I don't know why OiNK was shut down by the authorities... I'm still trying my hardest to figure out why Napster was shut down by the authorities.
pa42Oct 24, 2007
I see your point, but here is where I disagree. I would add a point to your second paragraph. You state "Second is stealing of value (potential for making money)." The potential for making money isn't determined by whether or not the pirate is going to pay for it, because the simple fact that it is given away free lowers the value of the property as a whole. If everyone knows that many people are getting an item for free, they are far less likely to purchase it at a high price. So they are stealing the value. Not to mention the fact that at least some pirates would have paid if they couldn't pirate. I wouldn't say that all copyright infringement is stealing, but the mass downloads of a plurality of mp3's by thousands of people clearly lowers the value of the IP and thus meets your requirement for stealing. AS for the original comment that copyright infringement is not the same as stealing. I would agree if it wasn't in response to what it was in response to. He (or she) was not making a generalized point. he was making the point that epics statement that the stealing of the domain was ironic considering they were in the business of stealing (I paraphrased, but you know what I mean). So epic wasn't saying that all copyright infringement was stealing or that they were the same thing. So the phrase "copyright infringement is not the same as stealing" specifically and unquestionable was stating that what OiNK was doing was not stealing.
nayaminaOct 24, 2007
See the part where the logos of the 2 groups that should not have the right to hijack the domain that has been paid for? Shutting down a site is one thing. Taking their paid domain and posting their own messages is something completely different and is what most people are upset about.
jtmeyerOct 24, 2007
well the big difference is we're not working with law agencies to try to "crack down" on them...
jtmeyerOct 24, 2007
dont' be so ignorant. You really think he's being buried because he's using "real logic?"