news.com.com — Neat interview explaining how Jobs wanted to switch to Intel a long time ago, among other things."I've seen both sides of the Apple story because I sold the G5 to Steve (Jobs) the first time he wanted to move to Intel."
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muzical84Dec 7, 2005
I've been curious about this myself. Thanks for posting this. :)
gbm85Dec 7, 2005
"forget about all the 'dupe' and 'old' cryers... for some reason, some digg members seem to think that anything more than 24hrs in the past is old... talk about short attention spans..."At least I can f**king count. This "news" is at least months old.
antitraceDec 7, 2005
it was less than 3% for IBM, why waste time/money on a whiny-ass company such as Apple? When Apple is greater than 2% of the world wide comptuer market, I'm sure they'll have more of a leverage.
cquinndDec 7, 2005
@blixel and larowebr IIRC, I don't think Apple ever said that x86 was "inferior", as in not a good chip. They instead promoted the G5 (and Altivec) as "superior" or a better code engine than what the other chip makers were offering at the time. Now times have changed: Apple can get the same or better performance from the x86 side that they used to get from the high end apps on the G5; so they don't need to pushAltivec as hard anymore. Apple also did not have OSX ready for the transition when they moved up from the PowerPC chips, waiting a little longer does give them a better platform from which to make the change.
zerorealityDec 7, 2005
Nope. Just didn't like the fact that the headline screamed Apple, while the entire article was about Freescale. A more accurate headline would read, "Thanks to Apple is the PowerPC dead? Not if Freescale has anything to say about it".
sfacetsDec 7, 2005
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pr0t0Dec 7, 2005
Hey, take it easy there master_of_fm!As a matter of fact, Pentiums typically ran much hotter than their PPC counterparts. That is until Intel learned a few things, dropped the megahertz myth, and came out with Pentium M series of desktop and laptop chips. Now they have comparable performance while running a little slower, and a little cooler.Further, while Intel's roadmap seems to show their processor performance will eventually significantly outperform the future offerings from IBM, this hasn't been the case yet. In fact, most real-world testing shows the G5s outperforming the P4s. Of course, this has to be taken with at least a few grains of salt. There's usually an agenda by the tester and it is difficult effectively compare the two processors (it's not like the OS has nothing to do with performance).I have used both G5s and P4s and my experience has been that the G5 system typically outperforms the P4 system. It's not laboratory testing, but I don't care about that. I just the apps I'm using to perform as quickly as possible.
master_of_fmDec 7, 2005
@pr0t0preaching to the choir dude. I used to be an Intel fan (my 875 system rocked) but when it came time to build a new system I looked at what Intel and AMD had to offer, I went AMD. When I went to the Intel technical solutions training in July I asked why my Athlon64 system ran so much cooler than the current Intel offerings, it just pissed him off. The one thing Intel has actually done right recently is the Pentium M. I almost bought a Mac mini for my wife, just because I think there cool and I wanted a chance to play with OSX. I will probably pickup an Intel Powerbook when the come out because I love the design and styling, you don't find anything close to it in the PC world. My biggest problem with apple has been that you can’t build a Mac, with any luck or maybe some good hacking that will be a possibility. I couldn't believe how quick and snappy osx86 was on my athlon64 and this wasn't even close to optimized like it is on a dev box. But because my job is supporting windows users I always have to keep a foot in the Microsoft pool. I can never completely convert. Believe me after supporting windows users I wish I could.Lastly, it just really bugs me when people don't like your idea or don't like something and they are like "well yah, f**k you, how do you like me now bitch” especially when all they have to say is conjecture and has absolutely no backing or basis. In other words they say that something will be, simply because they said so."Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln
laughingman234Dec 8, 2005
ummm when you move for mhz/watt...couple that with the demand for g5 laptopt thats not there...I say Duh...
Closed AccountDec 8, 2005
Interesting interview/article.