I hate IE, i always have, im a website designer and developer, and most of my frontend problems are always trying to hack my sites to work wiith the s**tty browser.
Not sure why they dugg you down. I considered this, but figured giving them the crippled layout was better than no access.Also, what's with the hate, Hortnon and your 11 supporters? A lot of people *did* end up upgrading and the site is doing relatively fine. It's backed now by a small public company.
@ bjornski RE: " good thing Apple took the Webkit idea and ran with it, or else those poor Linux users wouldn't have anything to run"as xprojects stated, you are wrong :"WebKit had a huge installed user base before Safari. Oh wait, no it didn't! No one ever developed for it until it was in Safari. Without Apple, WebKit as you know it would be like Konqueror - little to nothing to anyone not from the 0.0001% of the market that uses it."
you can't dump 20% of your customers, even if they are idiots who keep using IE6, when your living depends on it.you can't kill the "leeches" that gives you the money to feed your own family. That's the cold and cruel reality, when you work to code a website, you have to support those IE6 users, else your boss will not fire his customers, your boss will fire YOU.And the best browser for Windows 95 is Opera, so you don't need to use some crappy long unsupported browser even more vulnerable than IE6, that is FF1.
I suppose your opinion of IE6's complete lack of support for PNG transparency requires a "minor tweak" as well? I make a lot of things that are damn pretty in mockups but I have to make them look like s**t for IE6 support when the usual hacks won't work. Try making a td background semi transparent and see how DX Alpha Transform proceeds to make your site completely un-clickable. At this moment, I'm considering starting a movement to have a bunch of people call Microsoft and scream at them until they agree to make IE8 either standards compliant or (better yet), keep it from hitting the market at all. I made a site the other day that works fine on EVERYTHING Webkit/Gecko--I had to hack it to work on BOTH IE6 AND IE7 to get it to work, only to find out that it looks all ****ed up in IE8. Anyone want to blow up some MS numbers lines with me?
YOU'RE f**king retarded... If IE8 is STANDARDS COMPLIANT, then something that looks dandy in Firefox, Safari, Opera, NS, Konquerer, etc. should inherently f**king WORK when it hits IE8. When I make a site, I have to make four versions now:1. <= IE6 version2. IE7 version3. IE8 version4. Everything else on the f**king planet version
Meaning that he and his browser got less sophisticated, increasing immature, and eventually ended up crying their eyes out and dying? I HOPE this happens to IE8
godsdeadDec 23, 2008
I hate IE, i always have, im a website designer and developer, and most of my frontend problems are always trying to hack my sites to work wiith the s**tty browser.
xprojectsDec 23, 2008
Yes, but think of all the market share you gain by having a better application at half the cost (no IE6 exception build, etc.)
xprojectsDec 23, 2008
Not sure why they dugg you down. I considered this, but figured giving them the crippled layout was better than no access.Also, what's with the hate, Hortnon and your 11 supporters? A lot of people *did* end up upgrading and the site is doing relatively fine. It's backed now by a small public company.
mrbitchDec 26, 2008
@ bjornski RE: " good thing Apple took the Webkit idea and ran with it, or else those poor Linux users wouldn't have anything to run"as xprojects stated, you are wrong :"WebKit had a huge installed user base before Safari. Oh wait, no it didn't! No one ever developed for it until it was in Safari. Without Apple, WebKit as you know it would be like Konqueror - little to nothing to anyone not from the 0.0001% of the market that uses it."
wellofsoulsJan 16, 2009
you can't dump 20% of your customers, even if they are idiots who keep using IE6, when your living depends on it.you can't kill the "leeches" that gives you the money to feed your own family. That's the cold and cruel reality, when you work to code a website, you have to support those IE6 users, else your boss will not fire his customers, your boss will fire YOU.And the best browser for Windows 95 is Opera, so you don't need to use some crappy long unsupported browser even more vulnerable than IE6, that is FF1.
staticfiveMar 3, 2009
I suppose your opinion of IE6's complete lack of support for PNG transparency requires a "minor tweak" as well? I make a lot of things that are damn pretty in mockups but I have to make them look like s**t for IE6 support when the usual hacks won't work. Try making a td background semi transparent and see how DX Alpha Transform proceeds to make your site completely un-clickable. At this moment, I'm considering starting a movement to have a bunch of people call Microsoft and scream at them until they agree to make IE8 either standards compliant or (better yet), keep it from hitting the market at all. I made a site the other day that works fine on EVERYTHING Webkit/Gecko--I had to hack it to work on BOTH IE6 AND IE7 to get it to work, only to find out that it looks all ****ed up in IE8. Anyone want to blow up some MS numbers lines with me?
staticfiveMar 3, 2009
YOU'RE f**king retarded... If IE8 is STANDARDS COMPLIANT, then something that looks dandy in Firefox, Safari, Opera, NS, Konquerer, etc. should inherently f**king WORK when it hits IE8. When I make a site, I have to make four versions now:1. <= IE6 version2. IE7 version3. IE8 version4. Everything else on the f**king planet version
staticfiveMar 3, 2009
Meaning that he and his browser got less sophisticated, increasing immature, and eventually ended up crying their eyes out and dying? I HOPE this happens to IE8