itwire.com.au — In the battle to spread the use of GNU/Linux, it is often forgotten that education has to be the starting point. People need to be educated to the point where they come to demand decent behaviour from an operating system; companies need educated admins to keep GNU/Linux systems running.
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chandonMar 9, 2007
He *could* be running a system properly called Linux (i.e. with all his non-GNU applications statically linked to something other than the GNU C Library and no Gnome or GCC installed). He could even be running a Linux-based system that isn't GNU, for example the AIX/Linux that IBM keeps talking about making.But... if I had to bet money, I'd bet that a Linux-based system on a PC is probably GNU/Linux.
Closed AccountMar 9, 2007
@iamcitizen"No, It's GNU/Linux"The fact that GNU software is under the GPL means that it can be called whatever I want to call it. Ironic, no?Its up to the distro as to what they want to refer to it as, when I say "linux" referring to the whole OS, and someone wants me to say GNU/Linux. GNU wants there name in there becuase a lot of GNU projects are distributed under the big heading "linux" while that just refers to the kernel. I would argue that the most important piece of software on my web server is Apache. I could change the OS, but I very much want to keep apache, should I call it "GNU/Apache Software Foundation/Linux", or better yet "GNU/Apache Foundation/Zend/MySQL AB/NonGNU/Linux"?
mabhatterMar 10, 2007
considering the typical 20K you'd spend on even a cheap state school 1-3k's not really bad.. it's the TIME that's the killer. If you work, those classes, particularly the Red Hat ones are on-site, meaning YOU have to convince the boss to pay you to go, or fork over the 5k for the whole classes, plus vacation time and travel.. it's still a good deal to get official Linux training from guys that actually WRITE part of it, but it's out of the budget of the poor folk like us that need to get those good jobs. The typical "chicken vs egg" problem.
minivanmegafunMar 10, 2007
Sitting in windows administration courses because there are no good Linux admin courses.Of course, I already have a Linux administration job, so the college is now a formality (that was written into my employment contract)
diggduggjoeMar 10, 2007
Linux guys do not have much of a sense of humor this week. I use Linux and I have been updating PC and servers to work with DST all week on both Windows and Linux platforms. Just a timely joke guys.
maverick1972Mar 13, 2007
Yeah, HelloThere is nothing out there for me in Linux, nothing with "$" anyway. Nobody cares about Linux around here and there is no demand.They only care that I can keep their windows systems up and running in the office.
chandonMar 17, 2007
mat2k:Yes, there are other options that you could use to replace the GNU components of the GNU/Linux system. There are even options that are still Free Software (Open Source). The other options are: Solaris and the various BSDs. To replace GNU, your only choice today is to drop in legitimate Unix code. You're not going to tell me that Solaris or FreeBSD isn't an operating system, are you?The point is that if you run Linux without GNU software, that would be a completely different operating system from the GNU/Linux system. You'd have to take the entire userspace component of the operating system and replace it - the C library, the shell, the development tools, the other standard programs (things like "tar" and "dd" which are core components of a Unix-like system). Even the Gnome desktop environment was developed as a component of the GNU System.The GNU project set out in 1984 to create an operating system. Because Linus Torvalds developed the last little piece in 1991, it hasn't been necessary to actually finish the "real" GNU kernel. That doesn't change the fact that a GNU/Linux distribution today *is* the GNU system, running on the Linux kernel. If you were going to leave out one of "GNU" or "Linux", you could safely leave out Linux because it's only one component - but ignoring the GNU Project is an insult to the people who are primarily responsible for the existence of GNU/Linux as a functional Free OS today.
yakizzMay 20, 2007
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