arstechnica.com— Are the FCC's proposed net neutrality rules responding to real or 'anecdotal' evidence of unfair ISP management practices? We summon an unreal pair of experts to debate the matter.
Nov 17, 2009View in Crawl 4
Why does it matter whether there's hard evidence that things have happened already or not? Surely we can legislate to achieve or maintain a desirable state before it becomes a problem. That said, If it wasn't a problem that was happening already, the telcos wouldn't be complaining as loudly as they are.
@s73v3r "Once a non-Neutral net takes hold, it will be much harder to go back to a Neutral one."Why will it be much harder? I actually think it will actually be easier. Rather than trying to make a law to combat something that doesn't even exist yet, we'd be making a law against something that was actually happening. The law could be tailored to the exact problems that arise. We wouldn't need to guess what the problems might be in the future."And just about everybody else would say that the free market has failed miserably with ISPs"I don't think that's true. I am quite happy with my internet service. It is blazing fast (over 1000 KBps) and only costs $40 per month."given that so many of them have monopoly status in their area."They don't have permanent monopolies. They are basically utility companies. Like SoCal Edison and SDGE. If they do not do a good enough job, they can be replaced. If they violate their contracts, they can be sued by the city. They must deal with some regulation just like ISPs do.I am not against ALL regulation. I am against Net Neutrality."Unless you count "competition" from dial-up ISPs, which I doubt anybody who uses the internet regularly would. "Most people in this country have access to at least 2 broadband ISPs. I have 3 broadband providers in my area (AT&T, Time Warner, Earthlink broadband).
What they fail to realize is that many of the blocks to a truly free marked are caused by the free market itself. Telecom companies naturally become a monopoly because of the extreme cost of entering the business. There can be no such thing as a "free market" because those that find success in the market will impose barriers to competition. If you stop them you're back where you started.
Does anyone know where Net Neutrality comes from???I know!The Marxist group Free Press. Look it up. It will blow your mind that this group is the group behind Net Neutrality. And since when has there been a problem with the Internet that you all think it is a good idea for the government, THE GOVERNMENT, to have to take control of the Internet and fix something that doesn't need fixed.
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noisymimeNov 18, 2009
Why does it matter whether there's hard evidence that things have happened already or not? Surely we can legislate to achieve or maintain a desirable state before it becomes a problem. That said, If it wasn't a problem that was happening already, the telcos wouldn't be complaining as loudly as they are.
the8thbitNov 18, 2009
I'm not your buddy, guy.
tsuruchibrianNov 18, 2009
@s73v3r "Once a non-Neutral net takes hold, it will be much harder to go back to a Neutral one."Why will it be much harder? I actually think it will actually be easier. Rather than trying to make a law to combat something that doesn't even exist yet, we'd be making a law against something that was actually happening. The law could be tailored to the exact problems that arise. We wouldn't need to guess what the problems might be in the future."And just about everybody else would say that the free market has failed miserably with ISPs"I don't think that's true. I am quite happy with my internet service. It is blazing fast (over 1000 KBps) and only costs $40 per month."given that so many of them have monopoly status in their area."They don't have permanent monopolies. They are basically utility companies. Like SoCal Edison and SDGE. If they do not do a good enough job, they can be replaced. If they violate their contracts, they can be sued by the city. They must deal with some regulation just like ISPs do.I am not against ALL regulation. I am against Net Neutrality."Unless you count "competition" from dial-up ISPs, which I doubt anybody who uses the internet regularly would. "Most people in this country have access to at least 2 broadband ISPs. I have 3 broadband providers in my area (AT&T, Time Warner, Earthlink broadband).
captininsanityNov 19, 2009
What they fail to realize is that many of the blocks to a truly free marked are caused by the free market itself. Telecom companies naturally become a monopoly because of the extreme cost of entering the business. There can be no such thing as a "free market" because those that find success in the market will impose barriers to competition. If you stop them you're back where you started.
markglNov 23, 2009
Does anyone know where Net Neutrality comes from???I know!The Marxist group Free Press. Look it up. It will blow your mind that this group is the group behind Net Neutrality. And since when has there been a problem with the Internet that you all think it is a good idea for the government, THE GOVERNMENT, to have to take control of the Internet and fix something that doesn't need fixed.
harshiseoAug 11, 2011
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