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lilibethdlcMay 8, 2007
I don't think it is safe to assume that this or that is what the users would have done. Of course this case he presents would have been better that what Digg did, but still it was no guarantee that it would have avoided the mess.Digg made a mistake, let's just get over it and hope they learned their lesson.
chesterjosiahMay 8, 2007
I posted in that thread's comments, but I'll post here again just to reiterate.If I had received an error message that stated WHY the post had been removed, I would NOT have reposted it.Obviously, it's possible that other people might've reposted it and the same thing might have happened. But I agree with Ludwik Trammer's thoughts.I think any company who claims NOT to be performing acts of censorship SHOULD be transparent in this regard. Digg should display a different message (different from the normal Oops 404) when users land on a page that Digg has manually removed. Like YouTube does. Google should do this in their China endeavors too. It's a step in the right direction of getting rid of censorship all together.
noupsellAug 27, 2010
fta: "It looks like Kevin Rose doesn’t recognize what the story was really about. It wasn’t about a difference of opinion about DRM and a business risk between Digg’s users and Digg’s team. It was about lack of a basic communication from Digg to its userbase." - still hasn't learned
Closed AccountAug 28, 2010
Kevin Rose, you misunderstand the users of Digg. Here are some better ways to address the problems that face Digg.com and why users care.
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Why having a friend’s submits section is important.
1) Removal of a friend’s submits section from Digg increases Power user’s power.
2) Allows you to track your friends submits over time.
3) Allows you to search your friends submits.
4) Allows non power users to see their friends’ submits.
Power users already have a network outside of Digg, be it a Blog, Facebook, Twitter or other means to up vote their friends submits.
You are not prohibiting Power User’s Activities.
You are punishing Average Users, preventing Average Users from enjoying your site.
You are acting just like DRM!
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Why the Bury option is important.
1) Allows good to get to the top, and filters out the bad.
2) Empowers the Digg users for good, and yes evil. <Bury Brigades>
3) Gives Digg users the ability to control the News.
What makes Digg different than RSS feeds is that Digg was controlled by the Diggers.
The Report button introduced a 3rd party with power over what users read.
This effectively destroys the sense of the community Digg once had, by removing the Digg users’ ability to control the News.
How to deal with Bury Brigades w/o removing the bury button!?!
- Analysis of how Bury Brigades work.
- Bury Brigades have built a social network to control what type of news hits the front page.
- Strategy: As a group they target stories to bury.
Counter strategy: Do Diggers like the Bury Brigades?
- The only people who like what the Bury Brigades do are the Bury Brigades.
- Put a tab for the “Most Buried News” in 24 hours, 7 days, and 30 days.
- Let the Digg and Bury War Begin!!!
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Why Edit needs a preview button
1) Seriously, WTF editing in 90 seconds? Why!?! Explain it, and I will think of a better fix.
- Give us a preview button. Preview button, allows users to see what they post b4 they post it, shortening the need for excessive edit times.
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Why Digg thumbs and color scheme is important.
1) You know you are on Digg when you have those color schemes, and Thumbs.
2) Iconic Digg, it is what makes Digg different from other Social Media sites.
Closed AccountAug 28, 2010
Why the Comments Section is important.
1) It allows the users of Digg to communicate with each other.
2) It is the Social part of Social Media.
3) Comments are the conversation on Digg. Why is it so horribly mangled?
What is the problem with the current Comments system?
- Difficult to find/reply to replies. <Go to a post with 2000+ replies; try to find the replies to your post, May the Force Be with You.>
- No email notification of replies to your comments.
- No options for how Comments are shown <Viewing Hidden Comments, below viewing threshold?>
In a nut shell, it is nearly impossible to keep a conversation on Digg at the moment because the comment system is so horribly managed. There are several new aspects that I do not like, but I would rather you fix these first.
Because the Current Comment System is so horrible, it is killing two way conversations.
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What Triggers, “Slow down there partner, you almost broke an axle.”
1) Up Arrow <Yes, I no longer Digg on Digg, I Up Arrow.>
2) Up Arrow Comment
3) Down Arrow Comment
4) Comment
5) Reply to Comment
6) Change Fallow/Fallowing setting
Everything, every thing you do on Digg, triggers that message. Are they on different timers? No, of course not this is Digg V4.
Why is this bad? You are interrupting Digg users from:
- Up Arrow News they like
- Up Arrow comments they like
- Down Arrow comments they do not like
- Commenting
- Replying to other’s Comments
- Adding people that they like to Fallowing
- Removing people they do not like to Fallow
You are prohibiting all activity on your site, at the same time. Everything is on the same timer. Blind Up Voting is treated the same as posting commenting, replying, or anything else on the list above.
I understand why you want a timer, to curtail the activity of Power Users.
However, you are punishing ALL users for Any Activity on your site.
How many, broken axles do you expect users to wait?