planetsave.com — After a man fell from a Japanese whaling ship into the freezing arctic waters, the whalers have called off all operations while in search for the man?s body. Sea Shepherd offered to help find the body with their two small boats and helicopter, but the Japanese refused saying they would not require any help from an ?eco-terrorist organization.?
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docbob84Jan 7, 2009
um... I believe to whalers, *WHALES* are things of value. If they are prevented from whaling they are being deprived of a thing of value. Also, if they were just obnoxious protesters they would simply position their boat nearby and scream things into megaphones. I've never seen the shows, but assuming the people above are correct: when regular "land protesters" start throwing smoke bombs into whatever building or group they are protesting, they become more than just protesters. When they send people to forcibly board a ship (or, say, break into a lab if they're on land) they become more than just protesters.
mickstephensonJan 7, 2009
docbob84: My main concern is only of preservation of species and ecosystems, so like you I would say yes, although I don't think it would ever be achievable practically, as they should be treated to as normal a life as cattle for example, and it would have to be proven that they were under no more stress than cattle. I don't see how it is doable unless it happened in vast sea pens, but since whales are pack animals and not herd animals they'd need an even bigger territory.Yeah if food sources became so scarce that we needed to start eating everything I'd argue at that point that we're f**ked whether we eat all the whales or not, by that point we'd probably be having massive resource wars anyway.We'd have much more pressing matters to attend to than the rights of whales.
fadeddragonJan 7, 2009
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ohpleaseJan 7, 2009
Oh no, a "researcher" fell in the water. He must have been studying whale songs.
f0rmlessnessJan 7, 2009
" The smallest of the rorqual or large baleen whales, Minke whales were generally ignored as a commercial species until quite recently. As the larger whales became more scarce (and gained more protected status) Minkes have become more economically attractive. Though opposed by many countries, including the United States, Norway and Japan continue to legally hunt Minkes for both scientific and commercial purposes taking a few hundred each year.""As the larger whales became more scarce...." That's the concern fadeddumbass, those larger species were once more abundant, how long will take before 500,000 become less than 100,000. Mind you the threatening of species is not only the amount killed by hunting, but also effects of human interactment with their environment and the killing of the bigger, stronger whales, thereby weakening the gene pool and threatening the species.And by the way, every creature in the oceans is a vulnerable specie right now, Over fishing has threatened every ocean on Earth and very little has been done so far to thwart it. But you go ahead and google yourself some more statistics so you can pretend to know what you're talking about, whatever makes you feel better in the morning douchebag.
Closed AccountJan 8, 2009
You're right. It's not.
grollerJan 8, 2009
The fact of the matter is the Sea Shepard shouldn't be there. The only reason it is there is because there is no one else in the region that is stopping whaling or pirating, power vacuum. What needs to happen is for an actual law enforcement agency, preferably from the UN (or other multi-government agency) to be placed there and protect whales from whalers, and generally enforce laws in the region including pirating (not the software kind).
darwinbcJan 9, 2009
So you're calling people who have been whaling for centuries Eco-Terrorist? I'm sure there are a few people in the Scandinavian countries that would disagree with you