icecap.us — "It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create in allusion of rapid global warming."
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mrmacmanNov 9, 2007
according to the cycle trend, we should be moving towards an ice age in 10,000 years (or so), not a warming period.
wojtykNov 10, 2007
Many of the "anti-global warming people" you speak of aren't against conservation. They're against extreme conservation at the sake of all other things, including the economy.Many of the initiatives put forward, such as the Kyoto Protocol, would do little for the environment but would be _disastrous_ for our economy.Mindless, sheeplike treehuggers fail to see or acknowledge this point when wondering why people aren't falling in line behind it.So, to address your question...it's typically financial hawks and people who understand the economy a bit better than most who may not necessarily disagree with recycling and good eco-habits, but react with fury to any "massive spending" effort, especially on a problem that hasn't even been concretely quantified.If humans are having a 30% effect on global warming, is it worth taking a 20% GDP hit to fix? Perhaps.On the flipside, if human are only have a 2-3% effect on global warming, is it still worth the economic fallout (ie think "great depression") ?For some people, these are very important numbers that has not been scientifically concluded on.Eco-nuts tend to ignore this argument, instead labeling the people "uncaring wasteful assh**es" and blissfully ignoring them.
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jimintheocDec 6, 2007
I am so sick of the global warming morons I'm going to burn a tire every time I hear that term. Wake up!!!! There is no such thing as man made global warming....climat CONTROL, gun CONTROL, it all about CONTROL
diggheistFeb 5, 2008
Why can’t people use their own observations to reject this C02 warming crap? Do you ever notice that its cooler in the shade? You notice how much cooler it gets when the sun goes down? How about in the winter.? All warming comes from the Sun and Earth’s atmosphere does not behave like a “Greenhouse” . Besides, water vapor is a far more significant “greenhouse gas” than C02. Is the left going to tax the clouds next? If C02 is a “pollutant” then what is the optimum atmospheric level that would satisfy these global warming pirates? Remember, there would be little or no life on Earth without C02…
skeptic2008Mar 5, 2008
So much for skepticism and science education. Follow the money! Enron was one of the biggest lobbyists regarding the Kyoto accords. ADM lobbies for bio fuels. Regarding the science, the errors bars on the global warming increases are almost as large as the the increases themselves. Draw a correlation from that? I think not. Scientists are just as susceptible to political and social pressure as anyone. Publish or perish? Well you're not getting published if you don't agree with the view of the day. Has anyone considered the name of the IPCC? It has "Climate Change" in it. Without publicized climate change there will be no further need for the IPCC, no need to fund them, no need for their 15 minutes of fame...... It's called a conflict of interest.
skeptic2008Mar 5, 2008
I'm a trained scientist to0. I have studied some of the data and when the error bars on measurements are as large as the change in the measurements no wishful thinking in the world can draw a meaningful correlation from that. People who are skeptics about global warming aren't saying that human activity isn't trashing the planet (I believe it is so I guess I'm not a "complete f**king idiot" ) and your comment to that effect changes the subject and is childish. There are so many counterexamples as to how science publication actually works that it makes my head spin. Remember the gentlemen who recently won a Nobel for showing that most ulcers are bacteria related. They were initially practically ridiculed to death. Sorry, one doesn't necessarily make the front page just because they questioned the prevailing wisdom of the day. The climate models aren't even making good predictions. Every time something different happens, they have to had something new (and frequently opposite on a regional scale). This is beginning to remind me way too much of Ptolemy's cycles and epicycles. If the observations don't fit the theory just add more cycles.
skeptic2008Mar 5, 2008
Sorry, but Enron was one of the largest pro-Kyoto lobbyists and Archer Daniels Midland is a huge lobbyist for bio fuels. Your claim that Big Oil are the only ones turning a profit is therefore absolutely without merit. Oh, don't forget about Al Gore and his company GIM - standing to make profits from the trading of carbon credits. Personally, I think carbon credits are a cowards way out of the situation.
shakingfistMar 22, 2008
It's about control. The global government types need a pretext and a mandate in order to manage civilization on a larger scale and the GW scare fits the bill. In their minds this is all in the name of stability I suppose. It's a kinder gentler path to a world dictatorship and our eventual (some might say inevitable) enslavement. The only problem is that it demands us to suspend facts, logic and every other God given gift of reasoning. It's a brave new world.
jlfbMay 9, 2008
-At least that's what I've heard...
Closed AccountJan 8, 2009
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digitallyonsNov 25, 2009
Can we truly ignore that the last ten years have gotten progressively cooler and that this year was the coldest on record for some US cities, NY reported that it was 65 degrees in August and Chi had similar reports in the same month. Also, Just before Global Warming became main stream all of the scientist were saying that we were heading towards the next Ice Age?!?!? Global Warming is science that is not proven and deserves debate. Those who believe in Global Warming and wish to silence those that would disagree either 1) have an agenda and will profit from Global Warming and the U.S. being blamed for it or 2) are blindly following what the boobs on TV are telling them to. Research and investigate the issue, find out what the data currently shows and it will lead you down a path that doesn't end on Global Warming but a cyclical weather pattern that the Earth has been going through for countless millennia, which has been proven by the way.
digitallyonsNov 25, 2009
RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.? Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)