sheeplepeople.com— Federal, State, and local government spent roughly $50,000,000,000 (50 Billion!) last year enforcing and prosecuting drug crimes in 2007. Is that tax dollars well spent?
Jul 27, 2008View in Crawl 4
Drugs do not create jobs?prison guards? military expenditure for the war against drugs? law enforcement? those seem like jobs to me.taxes revenue aren't always the governments goal... if it was, dont you think corporations profits would be taxed in a real way?NAME STAYS
Most drugs out there should be illegal ... crystal meth, cocaine, LSD -- that stuff will really mess a person up. Same could possibly be said for supposed "prescription" drugs as well, like vicodin, and lithium, but that's another story entirely. So when this article asks if all drugs should be made legal, no, probably not, but something like marijuana is something I could see being legalized and actually improving the "war on drugs." It would certainly decrease the demand for the drug, and give drug dealers less reason to be shooting each other over it.Like all things, it's never black and white -- there's a gray area.
The war on drugs is a joke, I am surprised that we have only spent 50 Billion so far I would have thought the number to be much higher. 1) Stop sending money to Central and South American including foreign aid, tell them look if you can't control the problem then too bad. 2) Seal our borders up, if you try and bring a mini sub in full of drugs it will be sunk, if you fail to halt for the coast guard you will be sunk, if you try and fly in you will be shot down. No trial no second chances. 3) legalize lesser drugs and tax the heck out of the legal product 3) 1 and 2 will only really work if we establish a real working drug policy that starts on the streets and the hearts of addicts, as long as there is a demand someone will seek to supply the product.
"I don't think people should go to prison for drugs, but what pro-drug people never say is how incredibly addictive and incredibly bad drugs f**k people up. "-There is a difference between "pro-drug" and "pro-personal freedom". I decide what to put in my body, not anyone else, especially the government."Meth, for instance... crack cocaine... caffeine... high fructose corn syrup... etc. If you're trapped into a cycle of using that s**t, no, you don't need to go to prison, but you need serious help and intervention or because you're on a fast track into the grave. If you've ever met people on this s**t you know what I mean. It f**ks with their mind, their emotions, their body."-Totally agreement there. Treat addiction as a medical problem, not a criminal justice problem. If someone commits a crime while on drugs, they deserve to be punished for the crime. If there was truthful information rather than propaganda spread about drugs, people would be less likely to use the more harmful drugs. "Sorry kid, I'm out of pot but try some of this instead""Spare me the tripe about marijunana not being harmful... I've never met a brilliant pot smoker." -"...take all of your records, tapes and CD's and burn them.""And its smoking after all. It very likely causes lung cancer just like smoking cigarettes."-Wrong! Marijuana alone has NEVER in the history of the world caused lung cancer, nor is it every likely to. Cigarette smoke is radioactive, at one point, US Surgeon General C. Everett Koop stated that this radiation might be responsible for 90% of tobacco-induced cancer. Marijuana smoke is not radioactive. I do agree though that smoking anything is not necessarily the best idea, that's why many people choose to vaporize."But yeah, if smoking is legal, so should smoking marijuana be legal. And growing hemp, which has next to nothing to do with marijuana and has lots of industrial uses, should be legal. But just because something is legal does not mean its safe."-Good point, I agree."The most widely used drug of all, caffeine, is highly addictive and a toxic poison given off by the Coca plant to kill competing plants. Every time you injest it you are poisoning yoursef... therefore the fight/flight response rush. Keep injesting it and you start to get violent, angry, nervous, freaky... go further and you will kill yourself if you take too much. And this s**t is put into drinks and food products everywhere."-I think you are confused here. And everything can be a poison it depends on the amounts. Coca is an extremely valuable and nutritious plant which has been used responsibly in Andean cultures for thousands of years. I've been to Peru, in the mountains Coca is respected and revered, in the jungle tobacco is one of the most powerful healing plants/spirits used by almost every shaman. The problem is not the plants themselves, but the context in which they are used...
who gives the right to anyone else to tell me i can't do a drug i want to do? making a drug illegal is against personal freedom. whether legal or illegal, people will do drugs regardless. there are two types of people who do drugs; responsible people, and irresponsible people. irresponsible people do dumb and wrong things on drugs, while responsible people remain responsible on drugs. by having drugs illegal, then the irresponsible people will be arrested, as will the responsible people. but if drugs where legal, then only the irresponsible people will be arrested while the responsible people could continue living their lives as responsible, hard-working adults.it is unreasonable that i, or any other responsible person should give up our personal freedom because of others wrong-doings.
commonsense2k8Jul 29, 2008
Drugs do not create jobs?prison guards? military expenditure for the war against drugs? law enforcement? those seem like jobs to me.taxes revenue aren't always the governments goal... if it was, dont you think corporations profits would be taxed in a real way?NAME STAYS
geneticlemonJul 29, 2008
Most drugs out there should be illegal ... crystal meth, cocaine, LSD -- that stuff will really mess a person up. Same could possibly be said for supposed "prescription" drugs as well, like vicodin, and lithium, but that's another story entirely. So when this article asks if all drugs should be made legal, no, probably not, but something like marijuana is something I could see being legalized and actually improving the "war on drugs." It would certainly decrease the demand for the drug, and give drug dealers less reason to be shooting each other over it.Like all things, it's never black and white -- there's a gray area.
Closed AccountJul 29, 2008
nice one, you deserve a joint.
1kewldudeJul 29, 2008
Probably a Nickelback fan as well is my guess - that's how i know AmericaisDoomed is gay
derangedpenguinJul 29, 2008
The war on drugs is a joke, I am surprised that we have only spent 50 Billion so far I would have thought the number to be much higher. 1) Stop sending money to Central and South American including foreign aid, tell them look if you can't control the problem then too bad. 2) Seal our borders up, if you try and bring a mini sub in full of drugs it will be sunk, if you fail to halt for the coast guard you will be sunk, if you try and fly in you will be shot down. No trial no second chances. 3) legalize lesser drugs and tax the heck out of the legal product 3) 1 and 2 will only really work if we establish a real working drug policy that starts on the streets and the hearts of addicts, as long as there is a demand someone will seek to supply the product.
e1evene1evenJul 30, 2008
"I don't think people should go to prison for drugs, but what pro-drug people never say is how incredibly addictive and incredibly bad drugs f**k people up. "-There is a difference between "pro-drug" and "pro-personal freedom". I decide what to put in my body, not anyone else, especially the government."Meth, for instance... crack cocaine... caffeine... high fructose corn syrup... etc. If you're trapped into a cycle of using that s**t, no, you don't need to go to prison, but you need serious help and intervention or because you're on a fast track into the grave. If you've ever met people on this s**t you know what I mean. It f**ks with their mind, their emotions, their body."-Totally agreement there. Treat addiction as a medical problem, not a criminal justice problem. If someone commits a crime while on drugs, they deserve to be punished for the crime. If there was truthful information rather than propaganda spread about drugs, people would be less likely to use the more harmful drugs. "Sorry kid, I'm out of pot but try some of this instead""Spare me the tripe about marijunana not being harmful... I've never met a brilliant pot smoker." -"...take all of your records, tapes and CD's and burn them.""And its smoking after all. It very likely causes lung cancer just like smoking cigarettes."-Wrong! Marijuana alone has NEVER in the history of the world caused lung cancer, nor is it every likely to. Cigarette smoke is radioactive, at one point, US Surgeon General C. Everett Koop stated that this radiation might be responsible for 90% of tobacco-induced cancer. Marijuana smoke is not radioactive. I do agree though that smoking anything is not necessarily the best idea, that's why many people choose to vaporize."But yeah, if smoking is legal, so should smoking marijuana be legal. And growing hemp, which has next to nothing to do with marijuana and has lots of industrial uses, should be legal. But just because something is legal does not mean its safe."-Good point, I agree."The most widely used drug of all, caffeine, is highly addictive and a toxic poison given off by the Coca plant to kill competing plants. Every time you injest it you are poisoning yoursef... therefore the fight/flight response rush. Keep injesting it and you start to get violent, angry, nervous, freaky... go further and you will kill yourself if you take too much. And this s**t is put into drinks and food products everywhere."-I think you are confused here. And everything can be a poison it depends on the amounts. Coca is an extremely valuable and nutritious plant which has been used responsibly in Andean cultures for thousands of years. I've been to Peru, in the mountains Coca is respected and revered, in the jungle tobacco is one of the most powerful healing plants/spirits used by almost every shaman. The problem is not the plants themselves, but the context in which they are used...
oneandonetwoAug 1, 2008
who gives the right to anyone else to tell me i can't do a drug i want to do? making a drug illegal is against personal freedom. whether legal or illegal, people will do drugs regardless. there are two types of people who do drugs; responsible people, and irresponsible people. irresponsible people do dumb and wrong things on drugs, while responsible people remain responsible on drugs. by having drugs illegal, then the irresponsible people will be arrested, as will the responsible people. but if drugs where legal, then only the irresponsible people will be arrested while the responsible people could continue living their lives as responsible, hard-working adults.it is unreasonable that i, or any other responsible person should give up our personal freedom because of others wrong-doings.