online.wsj.com — In an editorial today (Feb 7), the Wall Street journal highlights the persuasive logic of the voluntary Obama health care plan which emphasizes making insurance affordable and thus attractive. It has support on both sides of the political divide. In contrast "Many Americans are uncomfortable with the coercion of the [Hillary Clinton] mandate,
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Closed AccountFeb 9, 2008
Why? WSJ is a good paper.
mugichaFeb 9, 2008
wow those pictures so don't look like them.
zenmojoFeb 9, 2008
Didn't you know, the top 6% of earners are just upper-upper-upper-upper-middle class.
absurdistFeb 9, 2008
Of course. In the same way it's been such a disaster for Canada and all of Western Europe. And yes, I've traveled to Canada and most of Western Europe and actually talked to people there about the issue. Imbecile,.
smotpokerFeb 10, 2008
@Pake - Not [always] true. Look at great brittain. Doctors make more there than they do here. They also have incentive programs that provide them with bonuses for having most healthiest patients and such. Insurance premiums and medications eat at least half of everything you spend for care (doctors have to pay for costly malpractice insurance now ya know). Only a fraction of anything we pay actually goes to the doctors or staff.The problem is that insurance industry (all forms of insurance from what I can tell) have been running along almost completely unregulated (it seems) for decades. With any form of competition, success is measured somehow. In capitalism, it is primarily measured by how much MONEY you get.This results in capitalistic medicine being, naturally, business-like and run/maintained by people primarily focused on making a profit (more profit == better business/more competitive). Properly permanently maintaining multiple copies related records data all the personnel throughout this infrastructure costs overhead as well, which further hikes medical costs... add to that the overhead of a dozen people just sitting around trying to figure out how to cut more costs and hike more prices as they watch the money roll in. Same thing with capitalist insurance. We've all had to deal with insurance and know they fold on obligations any chance they get. It results in 10 people at the top collecting all the money while everyone else scurries around for the scraps. You may think all rich people are pumping their money right back into the economy but many hold on to large sums for long periods of time, especially if it's "earned" illegally etc.With our country in debt, such a large portion ALREADY poverty stricken, large quantities tied up in investments and stashed away for laundering, did you ever consider that perhaps, just *maybe* there isn't ENOUGH to for everyone to get adequate health care at current insurance and medical rates? Even if you force them drop their rates to something very fair, there will still be lots of cases where, for whatever reason, people will not have insurance or be covered and the people who that is likely to hurt the most are the ones who can afford to be hurt the least.For the record, these are views I have established on my own over the years, based primarily on the experience of myself and those close to me and my own principles. I prioritize them thus: Life > Freedom > Knowledge. My right to Freedom is more important than your right to knowledge, however your right to life trumps my right to freedom. See how that works? I try to apply that to all people in any sort of really confusing/deadlocked dispute where the outcome of an idea is known/recorded. (if there's any question, "Health" counts in the "Life" priority)
Closed AccountMar 26, 2008
we in the usa already pay more than they do
dudley9May 25, 2008
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