starttherevolution.org — The Senate Judiciary Committee approved a bill this month that would allow, but not require, the administration to submit its warrantless wiretapping program to a secret national security court for constitutional review.
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slyphonSep 27, 2006
If you really give a s**t, you can call your senator and tell them you won't vote for them if they support this bill. You can give money to the Electronic Frontier Foundation <a class="user" href="http://www.eff.org/">http://www.eff.org/</a> who are fighting this battle. There's also the time-honored tradition of "Voting for the other guy".
Closed AccountSep 27, 2006
""Who appointed us caretakers of the world?"...YOU DID!You did it when you invaded Iraq...You did it when you chose to support Israel in the Palestinian conflict...You did it when you chose to support Israel in the Lebanon conflict..."Oh, it's happened long before that. Even the British Empire did it before we did. Not that it makes it ok.Anybody every hear of "White Man's Burden?" If you haven't I suggest you look it up.
mbabauerSep 27, 2006
@omababy"YOU CAN VOTE CAN'T YOU...OR IS THAT TOO BLOODY HARD FOR YOU"I did vote. The person(s) I voted for didn't win. I have also called my Senator and my congressman. Both times I was given a canned response that basically said "Thanks for calling, but we have our own stance".The bottom line is that elected officials already have their minds made up. They know what topics they want to stress, and what party lines they want to tow. My opinion, and the opinion of everyone else, doesn't amount for squat.And the sad fact of the matter is most officials are voted in because of their political affiliation or their religious beliefs. And this is the TRUE crime in America. We used to stand for something bigger than Christianity or Capitalism. We used to stand for the idea that every man had the right to be happy and was an equal under the eyes of the law, that controversy was a good thing, and people should agree to disagree, but argue their points in an open forum for debate. We also had some crazy notion that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Sure we stumbled along the way...slavery, woman's suffrage, these things were stumbling blocks that we had to get over, and we eventually did.Now, to reality of the moment. The driving force for ANYTHING is money. Capitalism is what runs this country, not freedom. The person with the deepest pockets gets the nod. Just look at any aspect of our government and you'll see that money talks. Lobbyist are paid MILLIONS to ensure the people who have the money keep the money. Innovation is out the window because large companies file so many s**t patents that the average person cannot do anything truly innovative. And the religious right, which has its own deep pockets, are turning this country into one large christian society. People no longer govern with their hearts or their minds, but with their agendas.This is the true killer of civilization, the injection of religion into politics. When you are trying to push some moral agenda, that's what hurts democracy. This is what killed the Romans and many other civilizations that were much like America was...great.To quote a famous musician, "This is the end...my only friend, the end..."
Closed AccountSep 27, 2006
He's not. He's posting under a false account trying to make me look bad. He's one of the scumbag extremist Malkin readers. He just happens to be incredibly stupid and juvenile. Just ignore him, he's nothing but a troll who will hopefully be banned shortly
Closed AccountSep 27, 2006
And yeah, I used the inclusion term "we" as well. But it's a habit of society when you talk about the government, you often include the people who don't go along with the government simply because they're citizens of that government. It's a concept not a lot of us are used to because a lot of us look at things through a simpler world view.
dewheadSep 27, 2006
What freedoms are you losing here? Other than the freedom to conspire to committ criminal acts? I could really care less if someone listens to my phone calls. Anyway, the wiretapping is not on dometic calls. It is on calls in and out of the country to suspected terrorists. You do honestly think the US is the only country doing this? Please name one country that has more individual freedoms than USA and please name some examples.
khonsuSep 27, 2006
I'm a non-partisan liberal who believes in gun ownership so that if the govt. ever stops protecting me, I can protect myself. Just in case, you know, we ever decide to use our right to revolution.
Closed AccountSep 27, 2006
@mbabauer - If capitalism was all powerful issues like "Net Neutrality" would have not only been squashed, it would never even have been heard. Although its increasingly harder these days to get you point across, politicians listen to numbers, voter numbers. I'm not American, but its the same in most democracies over the world, come election time they start bend to voter opinion. Just look at the pressure thats on those republicans in your country nowdays. that's election pressures which pwns any politician.
macewanOct 4, 2006
We are awake and trying to get this monkeys ass impeached.