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Um, agree on the first, not so much on the second. "Windows is good enough" might win because it might be true. Apple needs the influencers on board. And that could happen if:- gamers realize a "PC" is an Intel chip that runs Windows (Mac = PC in this way)- gamers realize you can move games around without uninstalling/reinstalling- Apple builds OEM video cards so we can slap in a 7950 gx2 or w/e without flashing the vid bios- Vista is horrific (probably not) and requires all kinds of activation crap (prob the same as usual)- gamers realize OSX doesn't require a serial number or activation- gamers get sick of Windows at work and want to come home to something other than a Start Menu (technology vacation)But I don't think any of this is very damn likely soon. Need more turning points like Intel switch and bootcamp, need more market share to push Nvidia to give a damn about driver support / gaming market.
I was excited about XP because of boot times, network stack revamped and driver support. Because I was having issues with 2000 (acted like a business OS). If I go to Vista it won't be because of the UI, so I would turn it off. As long as turning it off didn't decelerate the UI. I wonder how low-level Aero is. Is Aero enabled just for the eye-candy? Is the GPU helping out even in "classic" mode? I don't know these things and will wait until I'm forced to upgrade.
"My biggest gripe with the UI (without having used it myself) is that they don't make the text in the title bar, or the min/max/close buttons, fill the bar's entire height. It just looks odd."They did that for a reason and that reason has always been one of my biggest gripes with their windowing system (and other OS's as well). When I go to resize the window at the top left or top right corner of the screen, I sometimes click on the close box (right side) or menu (left side). I'm really happy they finally fixed this, even if it was just moving everything down a bit.
Seeing this, I have no doubt I will be using a 3rd party theme.Cyan, black, dark blue, green, red, silver, and violet -- did a colorblind monkey design this color scheme?
"Microsoft could just have one version that costs $400, but most people wouldn't buy it, so they call that version "Ultimate", and reduce features and lower prices for other versions so that users have more choices."LOL, "more choices." This is how MS justifies gouging customers for $400 on the complete version.But that doesn't matter, there's little reason for low-end customers to upgrade to Vista at all. Those types of customers don't upgrade, they just buy new PCs every five years and use whatever OS Dell decided to put on it by default.
Closed AccountSep 18, 2006Submitter
mvprj84, thank you :))
Closed AccountSep 18, 2006
Anything to back that comment up, or is it just bulls**t?
hurfydurfurSep 18, 2006
Um, agree on the first, not so much on the second. "Windows is good enough" might win because it might be true. Apple needs the influencers on board. And that could happen if:- gamers realize a "PC" is an Intel chip that runs Windows (Mac = PC in this way)- gamers realize you can move games around without uninstalling/reinstalling- Apple builds OEM video cards so we can slap in a 7950 gx2 or w/e without flashing the vid bios- Vista is horrific (probably not) and requires all kinds of activation crap (prob the same as usual)- gamers realize OSX doesn't require a serial number or activation- gamers get sick of Windows at work and want to come home to something other than a Start Menu (technology vacation)But I don't think any of this is very damn likely soon. Need more turning points like Intel switch and bootcamp, need more market share to push Nvidia to give a damn about driver support / gaming market.
hurfydurfurSep 18, 2006
I was excited about XP because of boot times, network stack revamped and driver support. Because I was having issues with 2000 (acted like a business OS). If I go to Vista it won't be because of the UI, so I would turn it off. As long as turning it off didn't decelerate the UI. I wonder how low-level Aero is. Is Aero enabled just for the eye-candy? Is the GPU helping out even in "classic" mode? I don't know these things and will wait until I'm forced to upgrade.
tapuzSep 18, 2006
For the clueless with the 404 error you will have to remove the ")" at the end ;-)
Closed AccountSep 18, 2006
Awesome, thanks for that Vista Ultimate product key!
mrkiteSep 18, 2006
"My biggest gripe with the UI (without having used it myself) is that they don't make the text in the title bar, or the min/max/close buttons, fill the bar's entire height. It just looks odd."They did that for a reason and that reason has always been one of my biggest gripes with their windowing system (and other OS's as well). When I go to resize the window at the top left or top right corner of the screen, I sometimes click on the close box (right side) or menu (left side). I'm really happy they finally fixed this, even if it was just moving everything down a bit.
obkenobiSep 18, 2006
Seeing this, I have no doubt I will be using a 3rd party theme.Cyan, black, dark blue, green, red, silver, and violet -- did a colorblind monkey design this color scheme?
obkenobiSep 18, 2006
"Microsoft could just have one version that costs $400, but most people wouldn't buy it, so they call that version "Ultimate", and reduce features and lower prices for other versions so that users have more choices."LOL, "more choices." This is how MS justifies gouging customers for $400 on the complete version.But that doesn't matter, there's little reason for low-end customers to upgrade to Vista at all. Those types of customers don't upgrade, they just buy new PCs every five years and use whatever OS Dell decided to put on it by default.
sniper668Sep 19, 2006
I was running the Beta with 512mb of RAM, and found that performance was acceptable. Not blazingly fast, but I've had worse.
isepicApr 30, 2007
@davepascoe - you have got to be the stupidest mother f**ker on digg.