youtube.com— Word of Advice for Steve Balmer: You can Criticize but Never Laugh...you may just find yourself in another embarrassing Monkey Boy Video
Jan 18, 2007View in Crawl 4
Ok, Here are my two cents. 10 years ago a Motorola Star-TAC cost $700 with a contract. Why? Because it was F'n cool compared to other phones. I could never have afforded to get one, but I'm pretty sure they sold more than a few. About a year ago I paid $250 with 2 year contract for my Nokia phone. Then about 6 months ago I bought a 30 gig Ipod. Now had I been in the market for both devices at the same time, I would have given the Iphone a lot of consideration. One last point. The touch screen on the Iphone is not like the touch screen on a Palm or most Windows mobile devices. The technology required to do stylus input is not the same as the technology required to do Touch screen/stylus input. I learned this while researching Tablet PCs for work. So don't automatically assume the virtual keyboard on the Iphone is going to suck like those on your Palm.
"FInally as for why everyone on digg is becoming apple fanboys, maybe it is because they have begun using more apple products. I started with the iPod a few years ago and then when they switched to Intel I needed a new laptop so I decided I would take a chance."This is why everyone is a fanboy on digg? I don't think everyone on Digg IS a fanboy at all. I think they are just the loudest most abnoxious, typically adolescent bunch with nothing more than freetime to use a computer they probably didn't purchase. "I hadn't used an apple computer since the mid 80's but I knew they held their resale value pretty well"I think it is safe to say, that most people, who read carefully, think less of a person who buys a computer with any consideration of its' resale value. The fact that you did, proves you just might be the idea Mac user. I know people with 4 iPods and download 37 new ITMS updates a year. Do you have any idea what kind of ideal consumerist you really are? Resale value? For a computer? Really?"I love my Mac"Bla Bla Bla, you and the rest of the other 6%, nobody f**king cares if you love your mac. We're happy that you do, just stop the fanboy virus, it's a bit rediculous and unfounded. "And finally stop throwing out specs on the iPhone like you know exactly what it is going to have and not have. It is 6 months from release!"Yeah, shame on all of us judging something, purely based on the specs publicly displayed on the company's website, what nerve we have criticizing Jobs for what his company posted on their own site! How Dare we say that Edge Sucks! How dare we long for Wifi Syncs and 3rd Party Apps, 3G and longer Battery life!
Yeah, what Balmer and everybody else for that matter is forgeting is that it's NOT only a phone.It's a phone + an Ipod + possibly the smallest wireless CPU there is!For $500 it's pretty good. Anybody remenbers the Origami? (Yeah nobody that's what I thought) Well Samsung was selling its version for $1099. And it's a brick. And the Treo when it first came out was about $600 (I know I wanted one but couldn't afford it)The fact that Balmer doesn't understand that the Iphone is not just a phone and could bet his money on a failure of the Iphone based on the pricepoint prove that guy is not fit for his job.I mean if I were a windows shareholder, I'd be worried.
The part that made me react the most was when he talked about how business users wouldn't want the iPhone. He then went off on a long tangent about why. Now, I'm not going to dispute his points (even though some have) as to why, but it's a straw man argument. Business does not make up 100% of the phone market. I'd even hazard to guess business users are more in the 25-33% range. They DO make up a significant portion of the smartphone market, but this is what Apple is good at. Realizing there is demand for a consumer-oriented smartphone, filling that demand lusciously, charging a premium but laughing to the bank as people who see something they can't find in any other device shell out for their luxury product. I think by the time the dust settles, the people who said "There's no keyboard support" or "PUSH e-mail was implemented half-assed" will look a lot like people who criticized the original iPod for lacking things the rest of the market provided. I don't care if my phone has a tactile keyboard, I'm used to multi-tap, so anything is a step up, and I'd hazard to guess many other consumers are like me.
God bless Ballmer's arrogance... needs something to rev up the troops...However, it's yet another reason why a Microsoft OS won't ever sit on my desktop again.Enjoy your Vista launch, Steve, along with all the inevitable bugs once can expect from a Microsoft product.
cthellisJan 18, 2007
He means to say that the keyboard is there, it's just not physically set in place with teeny-tiny buttons.
cowwiperJan 19, 2007
I can't belive he is so retarted to say it is the most $$$$ for a PDA type thing i mean look at this:<a class="user" href="http://www.cellularchoices.net/manufacturer/palm/phones/">http://www.cellularchoices.net/manufacturer/palm/phones/</a>
styleJan 19, 2007
Ok, Here are my two cents. 10 years ago a Motorola Star-TAC cost $700 with a contract. Why? Because it was F'n cool compared to other phones. I could never have afforded to get one, but I'm pretty sure they sold more than a few. About a year ago I paid $250 with 2 year contract for my Nokia phone. Then about 6 months ago I bought a 30 gig Ipod. Now had I been in the market for both devices at the same time, I would have given the Iphone a lot of consideration. One last point. The touch screen on the Iphone is not like the touch screen on a Palm or most Windows mobile devices. The technology required to do stylus input is not the same as the technology required to do Touch screen/stylus input. I learned this while researching Tablet PCs for work. So don't automatically assume the virtual keyboard on the Iphone is going to suck like those on your Palm.
kickasspodcastJan 19, 2007
"FInally as for why everyone on digg is becoming apple fanboys, maybe it is because they have begun using more apple products. I started with the iPod a few years ago and then when they switched to Intel I needed a new laptop so I decided I would take a chance."This is why everyone is a fanboy on digg? I don't think everyone on Digg IS a fanboy at all. I think they are just the loudest most abnoxious, typically adolescent bunch with nothing more than freetime to use a computer they probably didn't purchase. "I hadn't used an apple computer since the mid 80's but I knew they held their resale value pretty well"I think it is safe to say, that most people, who read carefully, think less of a person who buys a computer with any consideration of its' resale value. The fact that you did, proves you just might be the idea Mac user. I know people with 4 iPods and download 37 new ITMS updates a year. Do you have any idea what kind of ideal consumerist you really are? Resale value? For a computer? Really?"I love my Mac"Bla Bla Bla, you and the rest of the other 6%, nobody f**king cares if you love your mac. We're happy that you do, just stop the fanboy virus, it's a bit rediculous and unfounded. "And finally stop throwing out specs on the iPhone like you know exactly what it is going to have and not have. It is 6 months from release!"Yeah, shame on all of us judging something, purely based on the specs publicly displayed on the company's website, what nerve we have criticizing Jobs for what his company posted on their own site! How Dare we say that Edge Sucks! How dare we long for Wifi Syncs and 3rd Party Apps, 3G and longer Battery life!
aa90diggJan 19, 2007
Yeah, what Balmer and everybody else for that matter is forgeting is that it's NOT only a phone.It's a phone + an Ipod + possibly the smallest wireless CPU there is!For $500 it's pretty good. Anybody remenbers the Origami? (Yeah nobody that's what I thought) Well Samsung was selling its version for $1099. And it's a brick. And the Treo when it first came out was about $600 (I know I wanted one but couldn't afford it)The fact that Balmer doesn't understand that the Iphone is not just a phone and could bet his money on a failure of the Iphone based on the pricepoint prove that guy is not fit for his job.I mean if I were a windows shareholder, I'd be worried.
weareglassJan 19, 2007
The part that made me react the most was when he talked about how business users wouldn't want the iPhone. He then went off on a long tangent about why. Now, I'm not going to dispute his points (even though some have) as to why, but it's a straw man argument. Business does not make up 100% of the phone market. I'd even hazard to guess business users are more in the 25-33% range. They DO make up a significant portion of the smartphone market, but this is what Apple is good at. Realizing there is demand for a consumer-oriented smartphone, filling that demand lusciously, charging a premium but laughing to the bank as people who see something they can't find in any other device shell out for their luxury product. I think by the time the dust settles, the people who said "There's no keyboard support" or "PUSH e-mail was implemented half-assed" will look a lot like people who criticized the original iPod for lacking things the rest of the market provided. I don't care if my phone has a tactile keyboard, I'm used to multi-tap, so anything is a step up, and I'd hazard to guess many other consumers are like me.
sethwm2Jan 19, 2007
Yes there are walk into a Verizon or Cingular store and open your f**king eyes
himpsterJan 20, 2007
God bless Ballmer's arrogance... needs something to rev up the troops...However, it's yet another reason why a Microsoft OS won't ever sit on my desktop again.Enjoy your Vista launch, Steve, along with all the inevitable bugs once can expect from a Microsoft product.