arstechnica.com— Viacom has decided to allow users to watch and embed video clips from MTV networks (including Comedy Central), but not through YouTube. Viacom will retain control of its content.
Feb 14, 2007View in Crawl 4
@broomet'Not a fad, but it is NOT going to replace TV either."I have to disagree. Do you really think the 2 will remain seperate? Do you really think when the options to watch whatever content you like whenever you like it in HD that the TV model of having hundreds of simultaneous broadcasts will stick around?It's way more likely that TV will become just like youtube and on-demand and the 24 hour news cycle will come to an end be replaced by just watching what you want when you want it.
too slow with my responses I suppose, sorry about the retread with my last comment. As for the get url button on motherload, they had that before but it simply sent you to the motherload main page before, making you jump through hoops to access the content you want, not unlike the way snl clips are set up at nbc.com (bare in mind that I haven't gone there in a few months, and they have been trying to improve their site over the past few years).
doesn't matter. a lot of companies have had videos online way before youtube and google video even became widly known... the thing is no one cared enough to bother visiting their site. I will never ever visit them for what they think is funny or interesting to me. i for one prefer the way users chop up the segments of interest on youtube and google video. We all know they will lose so badly its going to hurt.. they cant control their content.. the harder the corporations fight it the smarter the technologists will fight back. they hire the smart people to build their systems for them.. but at the end of the day they screen for complete morons and the super smart are at home in their momma's basement running linux hacking away until the end of time. there isn't anything they can come up with that everyone will buy into. more control and DRM there will be a way around it. they will all lose if they turn a pc into a vcr or dvd player making it exclusive to just certain types of media..
I'm tired of preroll ads, I'm sure others agree here, i don't care about what you are advertising, Get over it and stop pretending like i would buy your crap if only i had a chance to see your wonderful commercials.I am not going to buy something because of an ad even if i need it. A number of times i have specifically bought a competitors product just because i wasn't forced to watch their advertising.Forcing me to watch it pisses me off, it doesn't make me want your products, quite the opposite. I walk away during commercials, they turn the sound up. I even change the channel during a commercial sometimes just so that I'm NOT watching the commercial. Making it harder to avoid them makes me more likely to pirate the shows just to spite you. This includes forcing DVRs to view commercials, or removing the "skip commercial" buttons.My advice? put the ads on anything you want, but if i cant bypass it, i will just record it and remove the ad myself before watching, again, just to spite you. I dont have an ethical obligation to watch them either.
Good luck, Viacom, on getting the cool kids to sift through your horrible Flash-heavy, Windows and IE-slanted, too-f**king-busy UI to play a few Colbert and Daily Show videos.Seriously, the reason I watch clips on YouTube is because YouTube's site is 1,000 times better.These BigMedia (BM) companies don't really get it.They mistakenly think that YouTube's success is all about them and their content, but they're wrong.Like with Apple and the iPod, the sum is greater than the parts. The whole experience matters, not simply a listing of features or a collection of certain clips.Will we miss the Comedy Central stuff on YouTube?Sure.Does it mean that YouTube is dead?It could.Does it automatically follow that each content owner will be successful hoarding their own content and suing people who deep link?Not on your life.
@broomett -- They aren't talking about silly pay-per-click advertising revenue, they're talking about advertising their shows/content/channels. That's FAR more valuable than the meagre pay-per-click YouTube isn't making money on.
They have a right to do it, it's just not smart.----@Broomett: "Hmmm..maybe...just MAYBE...since that have actual DATA.."?? You're going to criticize someone for not having 'data' by saying that someone else MIGHT have data..?? All the evidence out there actually suggests that YouTube distribution increases ratings (See Lazy Sunday, Daily Show, Colbert) -- can we see some of your hypothetical 'maybe' data to support your stance?
peritonlogonFeb 15, 2007
@broomet'Not a fad, but it is NOT going to replace TV either."I have to disagree. Do you really think the 2 will remain seperate? Do you really think when the options to watch whatever content you like whenever you like it in HD that the TV model of having hundreds of simultaneous broadcasts will stick around?It's way more likely that TV will become just like youtube and on-demand and the 24 hour news cycle will come to an end be replaced by just watching what you want when you want it.
chicken2niteFeb 15, 2007
too slow with my responses I suppose, sorry about the retread with my last comment. As for the get url button on motherload, they had that before but it simply sent you to the motherload main page before, making you jump through hoops to access the content you want, not unlike the way snl clips are set up at nbc.com (bare in mind that I haven't gone there in a few months, and they have been trying to improve their site over the past few years).
omarsxFeb 15, 2007
doesn't matter. a lot of companies have had videos online way before youtube and google video even became widly known... the thing is no one cared enough to bother visiting their site. I will never ever visit them for what they think is funny or interesting to me. i for one prefer the way users chop up the segments of interest on youtube and google video. We all know they will lose so badly its going to hurt.. they cant control their content.. the harder the corporations fight it the smarter the technologists will fight back. they hire the smart people to build their systems for them.. but at the end of the day they screen for complete morons and the super smart are at home in their momma's basement running linux hacking away until the end of time. there isn't anything they can come up with that everyone will buy into. more control and DRM there will be a way around it. they will all lose if they turn a pc into a vcr or dvd player making it exclusive to just certain types of media..
mrsteveman1Feb 15, 2007
I'm tired of preroll ads, I'm sure others agree here, i don't care about what you are advertising, Get over it and stop pretending like i would buy your crap if only i had a chance to see your wonderful commercials.I am not going to buy something because of an ad even if i need it. A number of times i have specifically bought a competitors product just because i wasn't forced to watch their advertising.Forcing me to watch it pisses me off, it doesn't make me want your products, quite the opposite. I walk away during commercials, they turn the sound up. I even change the channel during a commercial sometimes just so that I'm NOT watching the commercial. Making it harder to avoid them makes me more likely to pirate the shows just to spite you. This includes forcing DVRs to view commercials, or removing the "skip commercial" buttons.My advice? put the ads on anything you want, but if i cant bypass it, i will just record it and remove the ad myself before watching, again, just to spite you. I dont have an ethical obligation to watch them either.
diggerphelpsFeb 15, 2007
Good luck, Viacom, on getting the cool kids to sift through your horrible Flash-heavy, Windows and IE-slanted, too-f**king-busy UI to play a few Colbert and Daily Show videos.Seriously, the reason I watch clips on YouTube is because YouTube's site is 1,000 times better.These BigMedia (BM) companies don't really get it.They mistakenly think that YouTube's success is all about them and their content, but they're wrong.Like with Apple and the iPod, the sum is greater than the parts. The whole experience matters, not simply a listing of features or a collection of certain clips.Will we miss the Comedy Central stuff on YouTube?Sure.Does it mean that YouTube is dead?It could.Does it automatically follow that each content owner will be successful hoarding their own content and suing people who deep link?Not on your life.
doomFeb 15, 2007
@broomett -- They aren't talking about silly pay-per-click advertising revenue, they're talking about advertising their shows/content/channels. That's FAR more valuable than the meagre pay-per-click YouTube isn't making money on.
doomFeb 15, 2007
They have a right to do it, it's just not smart.----@Broomett: "Hmmm..maybe...just MAYBE...since that have actual DATA.."?? You're going to criticize someone for not having 'data' by saying that someone else MIGHT have data..?? All the evidence out there actually suggests that YouTube distribution increases ratings (See Lazy Sunday, Daily Show, Colbert) -- can we see some of your hypothetical 'maybe' data to support your stance?