video.google.com— An unexpected reference to insider trading and other suspicious stock market activities prior to 9/11 featured in SNL skit. WTF!?
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and donb't forget...Larry silverstein was caught oin tape, broadcast in the news media, saying "we have to pull bldg. #7"then it was pulled...as in demiolished with carefully placed demolition charges. Such charges take weeks to place, by engineers. Queestion: When did they place the charges?Do you still insist it wasn't all preplanned? Plus, consider the fact, referred to above, that there were 'drills', a few weeks before 9-11, in which everyone was made to leave the buildings...INCLUDING the bomb-sniffing dogs that had been stationed there for awhile before that. They took the DOGS out, when they had those drills!But some will still insist that no explosives were pre-planted by authorities. Those kinds of people still believe in fairies and magical elves.
@Waterdragon and SteeelDo you guys just ignore anything that doesn't fit with your theory? Or do you just really enjoy distorting facts and what people say?Waterdragon you QUOTE Larry Silverstein as saying "we have to pull bldg. #7", amazing how your mind has created that false quote because of your belief in this view.But thankfully your fellow 'believer' Steeel posts the actual video in which we hear what Larry Silverstein actually says, "maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it, and they made that decision to pull, and then we watched the building collapse."I won't go into a long winded argument (only half long winded) about this because I know that it's basically pointless to try and prove anything to anyone who already believes, but what Larry Silverstein actually meant by 'pull it' and them deciding to 'pull' is to pull out the firefighers from the area surrounding the building since they were expecting it to collapse. He says they watched it collapse, as we ALL did, he didn't say they collapsed it.I guess what you're suggesting is that since the firefighters are the ones that decided to 'pull' they must have been the ones who collapsed it and therefore were involved in the conspiracy. So the firefighers that died in the WTC collapse were just the suckers that the rest of the firefighers didn't like anyway, or that maybe they didn't actually die and instead are all living rich lives on some far off tropical island. Makes perfect sense when you can just make it up on the spot.
"Many times normal volume?" No. Many times the *average* volume. There are spikes in stock, bond, and options trading all the time. The "suspicious" spikes in trading volume on aviation stocks are suspicious only if you show them out of context, the way that the Loose Change documentary does (repeatedly). If you look at the whole timeline of aviation stock options, you'll see spikes that large, and larger, throughout the year. In fact, if anyone was trying to profit from an attack they knew was coming, they really missed out. They could have bought much, much more.
I don't understand why a few of you are getting so upset about this potential "conspiracy theory" true or not......this is what digg was intended for. Its great that we can have a forum to discuss these ideas, prove them wrong, prove them right, or just endow us with a little extra perspective.How is that possibly a bad thing.Debate and analysis is the only way to ever get to the "truth" the more the better.
Except it has already been so thoroughly proven that it makes Digg look bad.Every single post from the ultra lefties is taking millions of dollars away from Kevin Rose. NO ONE will ever buy this site if it becomes like a user rense f**king com
wibblejackass...doesn't have to be coincidental.. because ALL that bulls**t has been so thoroughly debunked that only the biggest worthless f**ks would still beleive it.Seriously...you are not worht a f**king thing in this world. Kill yourself and FINALLY give back to your parents what they have wanted for a long time. To be rid of you.You will NEVER be a winner. Ever. Do you really want to go through another 60 years of your sorry life? The pain could all be over in an instant.
Waterdragon...find me ONE demolition expert who will say that they use the term "pull" to describe demolishing a building.Also, by your OWN f**king stupid logic it was not an inside job. Becuase there is no way that the people who WORK in Building 7 would have NOT SEEN THE "CAREFULLY PLACED EXPLOSIVES"Seriously..do SOME reaerch so you don't look like such a f**king worthless idiot. demolishing a building is NOT just placing explosives. They spend weeks MANUALLY cutting support beams, taking out non-load bearing walls, etc. None of this could be done while people are working in the building.rstevens..seriously...all your points have been so thoroughly debunked by actualky EXPERTS at demolition that it matters little. And how many times are people going to bring up "Not hot enough to melt steel"? NO ONE EVER SAID HTE STEEL WAS MELTED! Of course, materials experts have all pointed out that burning jet fuel and other fires can burn PLENTY hot enough to heat up steel to the point of failure. But you don't want to hear EXPERT opinions. Just f**king lunatic ones.
Did you even read what you wrote?>>>In the month prior to the 11 September 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, unusual trading activity involving American and United Airlines stock was noted by market analysts who at the time had no idea what to make of it. Wildly unusual discrepancies in the put and call ratio — 25 to 100 times normal — were reportedly observed in stock options of the two airlines. In one case, Bloomberg's Trade Book electronic trading system identified option volume in UAL (parent of United Airlines) on 16 August 2001 that was 36 times higher than usual.(Options are wagers that the price of a 100-share block of a particular stock will rise or fall by a certain date. "Puts" are "shorts" — bets the stock price will fall. "Calls" are bets the price will rise. Thus, one who has reason to believe a particular company is about to suffer a terrible reversal of fortune would purchase "puts" against that entity's stock.)But it was during the final few trading days (the market closes on weekends) that the most unusual variances in activity occurred. Bloomberg data showed that on 6 September 2001, the Thursday before that black Tuesday, put-option volume in UAL stock was nearly 100 times higher than normal: 2,000 options versus 27 on the previousday.On 6 and 7 September 2001, the Chicago Board Options Exchange handled 4,744 put options for United Airlines' stock, translating into 474,000 shares, compared with just 396 call options, or 39,600 shares. On a day that the put-to-call ratio would normally have been expected to be roughly 1:1 (no negative news stories about United had broken), it was instead 12:1.On 10 September 2001, another uneventful news day, American Airlines' option volume was 4,516 puts and 748 calls, a ratio of 6:1 on yet another day when by rights these options should have been trading even. No other airline stocks were affected; only United and American were shorted in this fashion.Accelerated investments speculating a downturn in the value of Morgan Stanley and Merrill Lynch (two New York investment firms severely damaged by the World Trade Center attack) were also observed.
cloakandswaggerSep 23, 2006Submitter
"why do so many people have to put "WTF" in their headlines and descriptions?"WTF are you talking about!?
cl1mh4224rdSep 24, 2006
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waterdragonSep 24, 2006
and donb't forget...Larry silverstein was caught oin tape, broadcast in the news media, saying "we have to pull bldg. #7"then it was pulled...as in demiolished with carefully placed demolition charges. Such charges take weeks to place, by engineers. Queestion: When did they place the charges?Do you still insist it wasn't all preplanned? Plus, consider the fact, referred to above, that there were 'drills', a few weeks before 9-11, in which everyone was made to leave the buildings...INCLUDING the bomb-sniffing dogs that had been stationed there for awhile before that. They took the DOGS out, when they had those drills!But some will still insist that no explosives were pre-planted by authorities. Those kinds of people still believe in fairies and magical elves.
Closed AccountSep 24, 2006
for REAL.
animalSep 24, 2006
@Waterdragon and SteeelDo you guys just ignore anything that doesn't fit with your theory? Or do you just really enjoy distorting facts and what people say?Waterdragon you QUOTE Larry Silverstein as saying "we have to pull bldg. #7", amazing how your mind has created that false quote because of your belief in this view.But thankfully your fellow 'believer' Steeel posts the actual video in which we hear what Larry Silverstein actually says, "maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it, and they made that decision to pull, and then we watched the building collapse."I won't go into a long winded argument (only half long winded) about this because I know that it's basically pointless to try and prove anything to anyone who already believes, but what Larry Silverstein actually meant by 'pull it' and them deciding to 'pull' is to pull out the firefighers from the area surrounding the building since they were expecting it to collapse. He says they watched it collapse, as we ALL did, he didn't say they collapsed it.I guess what you're suggesting is that since the firefighters are the ones that decided to 'pull' they must have been the ones who collapsed it and therefore were involved in the conspiracy. So the firefighers that died in the WTC collapse were just the suckers that the rest of the firefighers didn't like anyway, or that maybe they didn't actually die and instead are all living rich lives on some far off tropical island. Makes perfect sense when you can just make it up on the spot.
xianprydeSep 24, 2006
"Many times normal volume?" No. Many times the *average* volume. There are spikes in stock, bond, and options trading all the time. The "suspicious" spikes in trading volume on aviation stocks are suspicious only if you show them out of context, the way that the Loose Change documentary does (repeatedly). If you look at the whole timeline of aviation stock options, you'll see spikes that large, and larger, throughout the year. In fact, if anyone was trying to profit from an attack they knew was coming, they really missed out. They could have bought much, much more.
jocoseSep 24, 2006
I don't understand why a few of you are getting so upset about this potential "conspiracy theory" true or not......this is what digg was intended for. Its great that we can have a forum to discuss these ideas, prove them wrong, prove them right, or just endow us with a little extra perspective.How is that possibly a bad thing.Debate and analysis is the only way to ever get to the "truth" the more the better.
Closed AccountSep 24, 2006
Except it has already been so thoroughly proven that it makes Digg look bad.Every single post from the ultra lefties is taking millions of dollars away from Kevin Rose. NO ONE will ever buy this site if it becomes like a user rense f**king com
Closed AccountSep 24, 2006
wibblejackass...doesn't have to be coincidental.. because ALL that bulls**t has been so thoroughly debunked that only the biggest worthless f**ks would still beleive it.Seriously...you are not worht a f**king thing in this world. Kill yourself and FINALLY give back to your parents what they have wanted for a long time. To be rid of you.You will NEVER be a winner. Ever. Do you really want to go through another 60 years of your sorry life? The pain could all be over in an instant.
Closed AccountSep 24, 2006
Waterdragon...find me ONE demolition expert who will say that they use the term "pull" to describe demolishing a building.Also, by your OWN f**king stupid logic it was not an inside job. Becuase there is no way that the people who WORK in Building 7 would have NOT SEEN THE "CAREFULLY PLACED EXPLOSIVES"Seriously..do SOME reaerch so you don't look like such a f**king worthless idiot. demolishing a building is NOT just placing explosives. They spend weeks MANUALLY cutting support beams, taking out non-load bearing walls, etc. None of this could be done while people are working in the building.rstevens..seriously...all your points have been so thoroughly debunked by actualky EXPERTS at demolition that it matters little. And how many times are people going to bring up "Not hot enough to melt steel"? NO ONE EVER SAID HTE STEEL WAS MELTED! Of course, materials experts have all pointed out that burning jet fuel and other fires can burn PLENTY hot enough to heat up steel to the point of failure. But you don't want to hear EXPERT opinions. Just f**king lunatic ones.
cl1mh4224rdSep 24, 2006
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slipgridOct 30, 2008
Did you even read what you wrote?>>>In the month prior to the 11 September 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, unusual trading activity involving American and United Airlines stock was noted by market analysts who at the time had no idea what to make of it. Wildly unusual discrepancies in the put and call ratio — 25 to 100 times normal — were reportedly observed in stock options of the two airlines. In one case, Bloomberg's Trade Book electronic trading system identified option volume in UAL (parent of United Airlines) on 16 August 2001 that was 36 times higher than usual.(Options are wagers that the price of a 100-share block of a particular stock will rise or fall by a certain date. "Puts" are "shorts" — bets the stock price will fall. "Calls" are bets the price will rise. Thus, one who has reason to believe a particular company is about to suffer a terrible reversal of fortune would purchase "puts" against that entity's stock.)But it was during the final few trading days (the market closes on weekends) that the most unusual variances in activity occurred. Bloomberg data showed that on 6 September 2001, the Thursday before that black Tuesday, put-option volume in UAL stock was nearly 100 times higher than normal: 2,000 options versus 27 on the previousday.On 6 and 7 September 2001, the Chicago Board Options Exchange handled 4,744 put options for United Airlines' stock, translating into 474,000 shares, compared with just 396 call options, or 39,600 shares. On a day that the put-to-call ratio would normally have been expected to be roughly 1:1 (no negative news stories about United had broken), it was instead 12:1.On 10 September 2001, another uneventful news day, American Airlines' option volume was 4,516 puts and 748 calls, a ratio of 6:1 on yet another day when by rights these options should have been trading even. No other airline stocks were affected; only United and American were shorted in this fashion.Accelerated investments speculating a downturn in the value of Morgan Stanley and Merrill Lynch (two New York investment firms severely damaged by the World Trade Center attack) were also observed.