kroah.com— A very interesting presentation from the OLS 2006 symposium that talks of the myths of the Linux kernel, what the Linux kernel community is about and how you can get involved!
Jul 24, 2006View in Crawl 4
from the article"This means that SuSE 10.1, and SLES and SLED 10 will not have any closed source kernel modules in it at all. This is a very good thing."is this true? do these current releases really not support nvidia or ati video cards?
And the author's claims that Linux supports such a wide variety of hardware (CPUs) aren't relevant for most people. Linux always has trouble supporting the latest and greatest hardware, since it takes time for the coders to reverse engineer or, create from scratch drivers to support it.
Another common myth is that "Linux is old, and the interface is old"This common misconception comes from screen shots of older distrobutions running either Gnome 1.0 or Window-maker or one of the older Motif style GUIs. The advancements in such desktop environments as Enlightenment, Gnome, KDE, and XFCE have greatly improved the interface, even more beautiful then some Mac OSX themes, in fact you can make your interface identical to Mac OSX or windows XP if your in transition. Not only that but with the new test of XGL it is possible to give Linux effects that rival, and even surpass some of Vistas new features, though I urge that this is still in testing, it does work. Remember, Linux is made by the community that uses it, and we're not going to standby and let it lag behind other Operating Systems in anyway.
Very good presentation. It's so true. And the last picture was really funny :)Yesterday, I had to install a Windows and a Linux machine at one of our customers. Windows install was 4 hours (installing Everest (which isn't free anymore!) to find out, what hardware the pc has, finding drivers (I found no sound drivers yet), installing applications). I installed a SLED10 in 45 minutes to a slower machine, and had to configure NOTHING AT ALL.
So apparently NVidia and ATI supporting Linux with their high performance drivers is illegal and unethical. I guess I better go delete my Linux quake4 and stick with playing the 37th tetris clone.
Nvidia and ATI "supporting Linux" is not illegal and unethical. It's their method (closed source, binary only) that sucks raw eggs. And I have never had the impression that they "support Linux" but rather they support their own sales and products. Because of the binary-only drivers of Nvidia and ATI, Linux is a bit more "difficult" to use, because you have to go, download and install those drivers (like you do in Windows), instead of having them in the box. Intel has open source drivers for its cards and they work right from the get go. That's just very nice. That's the way _it should be_. Hunting drivers like in Windows just blows. Pitty that Intel video cards are lame. And if Nvidia and ATI would open the source to their drivers, so many bugs would get killed so fast. They do have quite a number of bugs, you know.
xsecretsJul 25, 2006
from the article"This means that SuSE 10.1, and SLES and SLED 10 will not have any closed source kernel modules in it at all. This is a very good thing."is this true? do these current releases really not support nvidia or ati video cards?
artanisJul 25, 2006
@DrackerGlad to hear that this happened to someone else... Maybe they do that on purpose :p
brknJul 26, 2006
And the author's claims that Linux supports such a wide variety of hardware (CPUs) aren't relevant for most people. Linux always has trouble supporting the latest and greatest hardware, since it takes time for the coders to reverse engineer or, create from scratch drivers to support it.
zane411Jul 26, 2006
Another common myth is that "Linux is old, and the interface is old"This common misconception comes from screen shots of older distrobutions running either Gnome 1.0 or Window-maker or one of the older Motif style GUIs. The advancements in such desktop environments as Enlightenment, Gnome, KDE, and XFCE have greatly improved the interface, even more beautiful then some Mac OSX themes, in fact you can make your interface identical to Mac OSX or windows XP if your in transition. Not only that but with the new test of XGL it is possible to give Linux effects that rival, and even surpass some of Vistas new features, though I urge that this is still in testing, it does work. Remember, Linux is made by the community that uses it, and we're not going to standby and let it lag behind other Operating Systems in anyway.
rustyryanJul 26, 2006
i wish i could digg it twice.... especially for the FSM reference
enovakrssJul 26, 2006
Very good presentation. It's so true. And the last picture was really funny :)Yesterday, I had to install a Windows and a Linux machine at one of our customers. Windows install was 4 hours (installing Everest (which isn't free anymore!) to find out, what hardware the pc has, finding drivers (I found no sound drivers yet), installing applications). I installed a SLED10 in 45 minutes to a slower machine, and had to configure NOTHING AT ALL.
nemoderJul 27, 2006
So apparently NVidia and ATI supporting Linux with their high performance drivers is illegal and unethical. I guess I better go delete my Linux quake4 and stick with playing the 37th tetris clone.
silviumcJul 28, 2006
Nvidia and ATI "supporting Linux" is not illegal and unethical. It's their method (closed source, binary only) that sucks raw eggs. And I have never had the impression that they "support Linux" but rather they support their own sales and products. Because of the binary-only drivers of Nvidia and ATI, Linux is a bit more "difficult" to use, because you have to go, download and install those drivers (like you do in Windows), instead of having them in the box. Intel has open source drivers for its cards and they work right from the get go. That's just very nice. That's the way _it should be_. Hunting drivers like in Windows just blows. Pitty that Intel video cards are lame. And if Nvidia and ATI would open the source to their drivers, so many bugs would get killed so fast. They do have quite a number of bugs, you know.