bloomberg.com— "This is further evidence the economy is in a recession, probably a shallow recession,''It will be a major drag on consumer spending.''
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The far north of Alberta and BC has very limited pop. No it is not freaking tundra you dumb f**k except for the very far north areas. That is the NWT where the tundra exists. Yes it very very cold in the far north of Canada. 95% of the far northern area of Alberta and BC are full of Forests not tundra... FORESTS, with trees and everything. Ever seen forests in Texas? Maybe that's why you are confused. When you go to far northern small cities like Fort Mac or Prince George they are in the middle of forests not freaking tundra. But yes both areas are bloody cold. Why are you posting some link with average temps? Have you ever been to northern BC or Alberta? no? f**k off then.THIS, is the tundra in canada:<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiga_Plain">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiga_Plain</a>See where it talks about Tundra being mostly in the NWT?40% of Vancouver pop is Asian. They must have been beamed in and not gone the immigration route. Vancouver is also rated the number 1 place in the world to live. People, from other lands must read about that and say, well crap no way I am going to live in a place like that. I am for sure going to move to freakin Texas. Ya that's a great place to live. Guns everywhere, high crime and soon to be high unemployment, everyone is losing jobs and mcmanions. Ya sounds great!<a class="user" href="http://www.finfacts.ie/qualityoflife2007.htm">http://www.finfacts.ie/qualityoflife2007.htm</a>If you look at "Full city rankings for overall quality of living"Vancouver is #3, calgary is #25Both of which is ahead of any US city......HOUSTON, TX is #68, behind such lovely cities as Detroit and Glasgow ScotlandWhen are you going to be shipped to Iraq to get your legs blown off Yankee s**thead?
The peace corp would not have to be in Iraq if it wasnt for, you guessed it... you yankees blowing up s**t and indirectly and idrectly killing thousands of people.What kind of a moron would take a contract in Iraq, what a douchebag lol!Always sucks when an unbiased third party body slags where you live hey?
If you did a little research you'd find out that Obama isn't bluntly raising the corporate tax. He's never said that. He's reforming it by making it simpler and taking out loopholes that allow some companies to get away with very low taxes. That means for some companies, their tax will increase, for others, it will decrease. Just a few seconds of googling turns up things like this<a class="user" href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/25203220">http://www.cnbc.com/id/25203220</a>Also, your claim that"the more companies pay to the government in the form of taxes = less amounts of money for capital purposes = less investment in machines, production, expansions = fewer jobs."is completely false. Corporations pass most of their taxes onto consumers in the form of higher prices - which most people would barely notice. Under Obama, most working class Americans would get a nice tax break as well.
so is a zebra a black horse with white stripes or a white horse with black stripes? One man's recession is another man's depression and yet another's salad days. Some people make money when the rest of the world doesn't. To use the stereotypical 2 quarters of declining growth is to imply all data is equal and is reported equally well by all parties with a vested stake in the outcome, something I'm sure our fine government officials would surely do. They do everything else so well in Washington D.C., I'm certain we should let them decide what numbers to use, and when to call a recession. No matter if we are surviving on dirt and water or living in gold palaces, let the government compile the data to define our reality.If that doesn't scare the s**t out of you, you are insane or a politician.
yeah, manufacturing and construction are such an insignificant aspect of our economy. no use in counting those figures. just because they constituted the majority of good paying middle class jobs in the usa is no reason to include them. those "retail, service/travel, transportation/distribution, financial energy industries and the like" jobs you refer to are mostly minimum wage jobs. what a great thing for america, to export good paying jobs and replace them with minimum wage jobs. this may explain your bogus subprime mortgage theory. do you really think people can pay their mortgages when their $20+ per hour jobs are replaced with minimum wage jobs? my logic is not "too broad" as you suggest. my logic is that of a middle class american who is facing unemployment or under employment as a direct result of the current administration's policies. ignore immigration laws so industries can have cheap labor. if that doesn't work for the industries in question, simply send jobs overseas to countries with no labor laws. it sure is good for political contributions to the politicians who embrace these policies. for the middle class of america, not so much.i find it ironic that bush embraced a "tax stimulus package" this year. give consumers a one time tax refund to stimulate the economy. wouldn't it make sense that good paying jobs for the middle class would do this 52 weeks per year? oops, that would contradict the republican's holy grail of "trickle down economics", which has been a dismal failure for decades.
if the illegals are forced to go home, wages for middle class americans would rise. when industry cries "we can't get americans to do the jobs we have" they are only telling half of the story. the truth is, they can't get americans to do the work they have FOR THE WAGES THEY ARE OFFERING. they have no incentive to offer good paying jobs to americans when they can get illegals to do it for half the price and no benefits. they know that there will be no consequences for ignoring immigration laws, so why pay more? we can thank our politicians for this. if the supply of cheap immigrant labor vanished, all companies would be forced to play on an even playing field. the increase in wages for the middle class would mean millions or billions of dollars more in revenue that could be spent on stimulating the economy. bush just authorized the "economic stimulus package" this year for all tax paying americans. the problem with this is that it is a one time deal. increasing wages for the middle class would have the same effect on our economy for 52 weeks per year. unfortunately, this directly contradicts the republicans' current economic policies.
Closed AccountAug 3, 2008
ditto. it's very simple.....<a class="user" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07/Wage_labour.svg">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07/Wage ...</a>
jaythewiseAug 4, 2008
The far north of Alberta and BC has very limited pop. No it is not freaking tundra you dumb f**k except for the very far north areas. That is the NWT where the tundra exists. Yes it very very cold in the far north of Canada. 95% of the far northern area of Alberta and BC are full of Forests not tundra... FORESTS, with trees and everything. Ever seen forests in Texas? Maybe that's why you are confused. When you go to far northern small cities like Fort Mac or Prince George they are in the middle of forests not freaking tundra. But yes both areas are bloody cold. Why are you posting some link with average temps? Have you ever been to northern BC or Alberta? no? f**k off then.THIS, is the tundra in canada:<a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiga_Plain">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiga_Plain</a>See where it talks about Tundra being mostly in the NWT?40% of Vancouver pop is Asian. They must have been beamed in and not gone the immigration route. Vancouver is also rated the number 1 place in the world to live. People, from other lands must read about that and say, well crap no way I am going to live in a place like that. I am for sure going to move to freakin Texas. Ya that's a great place to live. Guns everywhere, high crime and soon to be high unemployment, everyone is losing jobs and mcmanions. Ya sounds great!<a class="user" href="http://www.finfacts.ie/qualityoflife2007.htm">http://www.finfacts.ie/qualityoflife2007.htm</a>If you look at "Full city rankings for overall quality of living"Vancouver is #3, calgary is #25Both of which is ahead of any US city......HOUSTON, TX is #68, behind such lovely cities as Detroit and Glasgow ScotlandWhen are you going to be shipped to Iraq to get your legs blown off Yankee s**thead?
pyrewyrmAug 4, 2008
jaythewiseAug 4, 2008
The peace corp would not have to be in Iraq if it wasnt for, you guessed it... you yankees blowing up s**t and indirectly and idrectly killing thousands of people.What kind of a moron would take a contract in Iraq, what a douchebag lol!Always sucks when an unbiased third party body slags where you live hey?
winampman2Aug 5, 2008
If you did a little research you'd find out that Obama isn't bluntly raising the corporate tax. He's never said that. He's reforming it by making it simpler and taking out loopholes that allow some companies to get away with very low taxes. That means for some companies, their tax will increase, for others, it will decrease. Just a few seconds of googling turns up things like this<a class="user" href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/25203220">http://www.cnbc.com/id/25203220</a>Also, your claim that"the more companies pay to the government in the form of taxes = less amounts of money for capital purposes = less investment in machines, production, expansions = fewer jobs."is completely false. Corporations pass most of their taxes onto consumers in the form of higher prices - which most people would barely notice. Under Obama, most working class Americans would get a nice tax break as well.
joe8packAug 11, 2008
so is a zebra a black horse with white stripes or a white horse with black stripes? One man's recession is another man's depression and yet another's salad days. Some people make money when the rest of the world doesn't. To use the stereotypical 2 quarters of declining growth is to imply all data is equal and is reported equally well by all parties with a vested stake in the outcome, something I'm sure our fine government officials would surely do. They do everything else so well in Washington D.C., I'm certain we should let them decide what numbers to use, and when to call a recession. No matter if we are surviving on dirt and water or living in gold palaces, let the government compile the data to define our reality.If that doesn't scare the s**t out of you, you are insane or a politician.
normlsparkyAug 23, 2008
yeah, manufacturing and construction are such an insignificant aspect of our economy. no use in counting those figures. just because they constituted the majority of good paying middle class jobs in the usa is no reason to include them. those "retail, service/travel, transportation/distribution, financial energy industries and the like" jobs you refer to are mostly minimum wage jobs. what a great thing for america, to export good paying jobs and replace them with minimum wage jobs. this may explain your bogus subprime mortgage theory. do you really think people can pay their mortgages when their $20+ per hour jobs are replaced with minimum wage jobs? my logic is not "too broad" as you suggest. my logic is that of a middle class american who is facing unemployment or under employment as a direct result of the current administration's policies. ignore immigration laws so industries can have cheap labor. if that doesn't work for the industries in question, simply send jobs overseas to countries with no labor laws. it sure is good for political contributions to the politicians who embrace these policies. for the middle class of america, not so much.i find it ironic that bush embraced a "tax stimulus package" this year. give consumers a one time tax refund to stimulate the economy. wouldn't it make sense that good paying jobs for the middle class would do this 52 weeks per year? oops, that would contradict the republican's holy grail of "trickle down economics", which has been a dismal failure for decades.
normlsparkyAug 23, 2008
if the illegals are forced to go home, wages for middle class americans would rise. when industry cries "we can't get americans to do the jobs we have" they are only telling half of the story. the truth is, they can't get americans to do the work they have FOR THE WAGES THEY ARE OFFERING. they have no incentive to offer good paying jobs to americans when they can get illegals to do it for half the price and no benefits. they know that there will be no consequences for ignoring immigration laws, so why pay more? we can thank our politicians for this. if the supply of cheap immigrant labor vanished, all companies would be forced to play on an even playing field. the increase in wages for the middle class would mean millions or billions of dollars more in revenue that could be spent on stimulating the economy. bush just authorized the "economic stimulus package" this year for all tax paying americans. the problem with this is that it is a one time deal. increasing wages for the middle class would have the same effect on our economy for 52 weeks per year. unfortunately, this directly contradicts the republicans' current economic policies.
gettaratNov 25, 2008
Wow... When was the last time the States had a higher rate than Canada? Seems like that time is coming soon.<a class="user" href="http://texashighschool.org/">http://texashighschool.org/</a>