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cypherpunksMay 23, 2008Submitter
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Closed AccountMay 24, 2008
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fuzzybeardMay 24, 2008
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rattelerMay 24, 2008
"You don't HAVE to buy their products. You make it sound like movies and music is some sort of fundamental human right. Sheesh."It IS a fundamental human right under a democracy.First: We The People maintain a society that includes everything from basic culture to language itself. Without that you have NO ABILITY to create anything. As a means to pay back EVERYONE who has ever contributed anything to maintaining that society, the "previous work" we ALL draw on, your intellectual work is supposed to end up in the public domain.Second: It's an imperative for any Democracy that all members of that Democracy have access to ALL the same information so the citizens of that democracy can be well informed. There is no subjective to way to evaluate the impact of any work or art for it's merit. Brittany Spears caterwauling has just much social relevance as the words of the Constitution or Patents of Nicola Tesla. Like it or not it has effected all our lives, and therefor we not only have a right to know about it an evaluate it, but a need to be able to address it because it has effected the culture we live in."Are you serious? Copyright is there to protect your efforts, my friend. I worked for ten years as an illustrator, ..."Any tips on who you blew to prevent all your work being stolen under "work for hire" rules that translates into a legal recipe the REMOVES me... the artist and creator, from having ANY say in how my art is used, or even getting further payment for it? The simple fact is, that if you have managed to avoid this trap, you probably come from a "protected caste" of society that can afford lawyers and never had to face starvation and homelessness in exchange for demanding the value of your work being recognized."Copyright laws work to protect both the little guy and the big guy alike." They should... but they don't."And like I said before, no one is forcing anyone to enforce their copyright." Actually, the that is EXACTLY what the MPAA/RIAA is doing. Not only is there clear record of them enforcing Copyrights on NON-Member works, but they have yet to show that a single dime of any awards they've received have been given to ANY artists. Members or NOT!"Part of the beauty of Lessig's work is the nuance of his Creative Commons license. If a creator wants to allow copying and manipulation in certain forms, they can allow that, and this is the good part - force the license to be inherited by derivative works. Without the fundamental idea of copyright, we would not be able to have the Creative Commons at all, nor would we have all of these other types of licenses, such as GPL, LGPL, BSD, BSD, etc."Finally something we can agree on. Yes, Creative Commons is a great idea, but since the public domain has been pirated by Big Media for over 81 years, and almost NOTHING has entered the public domain since 1927, the Creative Commons is basically stuck having to represent the culture WITHOUT the benefit of the vast majority of knowledge and information that has directly impacted the society as it exists. The fact that so much information that has effected every single one of us, has been copyrighted outside of that license... and that Copyright has been extended beyond most of our lifetimes, means that we are censored from referencing MOST of that work. Until CC has generated alternative version of every copyrighted concept we are economically censored from true expression and creativity."Look - if you don't like the way Disney applies their copyrights, don't buy their products." I don't think I've ever bought a Disney Product."Ignore them, and they will go away. They depend on you giving them your money to survive." In a free Market that works. But when they use the money they have already accumulated to change the laws, consistently, they cease to survive on the money I give them voluntarily and start to rely on the money they force me to spend both to stay current with my society, and through my taxes which are being spent by MY representatives against their will."But, don't go around saying that you have some fundamental right to their work." Have you managed to eliminate my right to free speech that much already?OF COURSE I have a fundamental right to their work. Article I, Section 8, Line 7 of the Constitution is the foundation for all American IP law. It grants the Author and Inventor, the exclusive right to profit FOR A LIMITED TIME, from their work.I can't "grant" some one the right to use your car, because I have NO CLAIM of ownership over it. However, implicit in Article I, Line 8, Section 7, is the fact that I, and every other citizen of the United States OWNS all intellectual property even before it has been created. Otherwise how could "We The People..." grant you any right to it.Denying our collective fundamental right to all intellectual property, also denies us the ability to offer you ANY protection under the law. Since all IP law stems from that Article, the domino effect is to throw out all IP law."If you don't like the laws as they are, you can work to change them."I am... by reminding everyone where these laws started and WHY "We the People" allowed them in the first place."But watch out what you ask for. Wipe out the copyright laws, and it will be totally legal for a large media company to just take your photo, or film, or whatever, and use it to make tons of money for themselves."Functionally that is already the case since access to the Law is dependent not only on financial stability, but also the quality and quantity of representation I can buy. As an individual I will NEVER have the ability to out buy the kind of representation that a Corporate personage like Disney can. In reality, I would be one man trying to outspend a gang of thousands."Without copyright, how the hell is a little guy ever supposed to get ahead?" I don't know what world you living in, but in mine, the little guy NEVER gets ahead, no matter what. "You think that the power is in the hands of those who own the means of distribution now? This is NOTHING compared to what it would be like WITHOUT copyright." Not true... because distribution in the age of the Internet has been democratized as much as the tools of creation. This is WHY piracy has really become an issue.Does copyright need reform? Yes, most likely. Should it be abolished? Hell no."You claim to make your living in the creative field. Without copyright, how do you run your business? Perhaps you work for a company, and are not self employed? Well, guess what your paycheck relies on? Most likely it is copyright laws - there to make sure YOU get paid for what YOU created."No... as I pointed out, when I DO get paid corporately, I loose all control of my work. It's called "work for hire" and freelancing. I run my business by being consistently creative instead of trying mine work I've already done, endlessly. Would I like to be offered the kind of protection for my work that you claim you have... SURE. But the reality is I only get paid for what I come up with NEXT. That is how the vast majority of the art community exists.The old business model of royalties is DEAD. At least to me. My work is going to be stolen. If it's by Big Media, they will steal my my accreditation as well as my work, and exclude me from my creation revenue stream. My only protection is to get a fan base that looks specifically for my work, and is willing to pay to get first. My work is not really my product, but an advertisement for the service of my creativity.That's called adapting to your environment. Creatively I'm a rat in world ruled by T-Rexs. If the monsters notice me, I'm dinner.My only chance to survive and evolve is to NOT be noticed by them, and to make sure that now they are getting hungry... that the bastards go extinct.If you REALLY give a damn about anything but your own pocket, maybe you should start looking into how most of your fellow artists are living, and help them get the same kind of representation under the law as you do. It sound like YOU have more to loose from revoking copyright that I ever will.
bjornskiMay 25, 2008
If I had my original copy when you were done, I honestly wouldn't care.Hell, I'd insist you take two copies, so you could give your friend one.
saejinnMay 29, 2008
Incentive? Ever heard of open source? Everything there is free, and there's plenty of incentive.