techiesphere.com — Toshiba, one of the biggest champions of HD-DVD formats, has finally given in and announced that it will be producing its own Blu-ray Disc Player this year. This announcement comes eighteen months after Toshiba lost the Blu-ray/HD DVD format war to Sony and Panasonic and other electronics giants.
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brucealmightyJul 22, 2009
No doubt in my mind that Beta was a superior format to VHS. And Gore was a superior choice to Bush. But at some point you just gotta suck it up and move on regardless........
raptor007Jul 22, 2009
Back when Blu-ray players cost $400-500, the PS3...* was much louder than any standalone player (still true)* didn't support universal remotes (still mostly true)* had no lossless audio support (still can't bitstream them)* wasn't significantly less expensive (now it costs far more than a stand-alone)* had decent SD-DVD upconverting, but far from the best (still true)Nowadays, the PS3 has also fallen behind in terms of load times, which used to be one of its greatest strengths compared to standalones.
tylerduhrdanJul 22, 2009
I have both as well and prefer my Toshiba HD DVD Player over my Sony S300, and Samsung BDP1600.It was not until I got the Samsung that I was able to view any of the special features on my Sunshine Disc, however I was always able to view all of the special features on any of my HD DVD's.I still have about 70-80 HD DVD's, and only 35 Blu-ray movies, and with places like Frys selling them for under 10.00, my collection is getting bigger, I got Appollo 13 for 3.99 last week on HD DVD.
Closed AccountJul 22, 2009
tbh as long as I can play movies with my surround sound hooked up idc. When the volume is turned up I can't really hear the ps3 whirring and spinning. The ps3 remote is fine considering some things like our sound box doesn't support the same universal remote functions unless we go through and program it (yes I am sure I will get to it someday), and any dvd I burn and play has a pretty good quality. However, I'm sure the standalone players will become more affordable now that hd-dvd is finally out of the game. I just like video games and movies, dammit.
Closed AccountJul 23, 2009
I agree with you that some movies have grain in them. This is either due to a bad transfer, or the artists intent... YES, sometimes they do intend for grain to be there.I would advise you to read this someday if you feel like learning something:<a class="user" href="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1037935">http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=10 ...</a>And once again, the grain effect is not isolated just to blu-ray, HD-DVD movies have this also.Using Edge Enhancement and other unnatural smoothing/blending effects does not produce a normal image, this removes detail.To the uneducated person (you) or untrained eye this will seem to create a better picture, but it doesn't.I doubt they use 15GB for useless crap, some do I'm sure, some don't. This is still not an argument that HD-DVD is better than blu-ray. My point is, blu-ray has a higher capacity than HD-DVD, which allows for higher bitrates, better audio/video codes, and extras (if anyone cares about those).Just be quiet, admit you were wrong, and enjoy your HD movies on the superior format that won.
tylerduhrdanJul 23, 2009
"Just be quiet, admit you were wrong, and enjoy your HD movies on the superior format that won."And you called me the fanboy.
tylerduhrdanJul 24, 2009
Ok Brick, here you go, reasons why HD DVD was a better format than Blu Ray, but still lost the battle.No JavaHit the market finished before Blu Ray even got the first beta player (version 1.0 ) to the market priced at 500 and also at 700.00.HD DVD Players and Movies were always cheaper than BDHD DVD had dual layer double sided discs, BD does notHybrid HDDVD/DVD discs, need I say more on that? way coolAbility to burn HD content using a Standard DVD burner onto a DVD5 using off the shelf DVD Authoring allowed home made HD DVD's that played in HD DVD Players. Up to 90 Minutes of 1080P content, I use this method to burn HD Home Movies and play them on our HD DVD player, even though I have 2 Blu Ray burners, Regular DVD's are cheaper than blank Blu Rays.HD DVD used existing DVD technology, Blu Ray is from the ground up new and more expensive to tool for studios.Cheap movies, I bought 15 HD DVD movies last night on Amazon for under 5.99 each, some were even .89, now those HD DVD's still give me an HD picture on my Plasma, the HD DVD player still works, and yet I got some of the same movies avaliable today on Blu Ray, but for far less.Dont get me wrong, I have 2 Blu Ray players, and 2 Blu Ray burners, Blu Ray keeps me busy with my clients, but for the above mentioned reasons, those are but a few, HD DVD was better in my eyes than Blu Ray. Does not mean I wont buy Blu Ray movies, I only buy what I do not have on regular DVD or HD DVD, and before I upgraded to a 2.0 Player only what would work on my Sony Player, some movies would not even work, Dont Mess with the Zohan would not even load, National Treasure 2 took 11 minutes to load the menu, regular music CD's cause my Sony model to crash, it takes 3 minutes for it to start up, and I am on the latest firmware, that I of course have to download from Sony, burn to a CD, then try to get the player to play the CD to do the update, with my HD DVD Players, a simple network connection makes sure it is up to date, from the day I took it out of the box.Enough reasons for you?.Maybe in 5 years the Blu Ray format will be finished, and all the bugs worked out. I picked HD DVD in the beginning because it was less expensive to get High Definition movies, i paid 100.00 for my player when the cheapest Blu ray was 500.00 at the time.