news.zdnet.co.uk — Linus Torvalds is clearly getting fed up with unneeded delays to the Linux dev process, and has decided to get tough on contributors who flout the rules on kernel feature submission. He has threatened that if developers add 'last-minute things' to the next version of the Linux kernel he will 'refuse to merge, and laugh in their faces derisively'.
Nov 11, 2005 View in Crawl 4
znxsterNov 12, 2005
haha i think thats more "torvalds inserts threat to attempt to rejig the process".. i can digg though :D
windwakerNov 12, 2005
"Once again, Linus Torvalds proves that he is an utter and complete tool."Yeah, anyone who reads the mailing lists knows this.Anyone who's like "TORVALDS IS THE MAN DOOD!" doesn't know him. Don't get me wrong, I -love- Linux; he's just an ass.
applesuxNov 12, 2005
"Still waiting on that whole "Linux deskop explosion" to happen."??You must not have loaded it yet. This crap blows up constantly!
gregpenNov 12, 2005
"OSX is based on Unix.... Punch me, bitch!" +DIGG
linustorvaldsNov 12, 2005
I f**ked all your momma's momma.
maverick83Nov 12, 2005
"The inventor of Linux recently switched to Mac."Yeah, but it runs Linux. He didn't give up the OS he made, he just moved it to different hardware.Nice try.
trongod05Nov 12, 2005
Argue? I'm just stating facts. Linux still doesn't support my Linksys WPC54G wireless card. It's been out for years now. The only way to use it is with ndiswrapper and a windows driver. How is that getting away from Windows if you can't even find a native driver for it? I have plenty of other hardware that have no Linux drivers either. You know why? Because programmers don't get paid to write things for Linux because they are open source and free. Which means it won't bring a company much money to write the code in the first place. So it's up to "the community" to write code. I can't depend on the community if they can't even speak english in a README file. It's a monumental waste of time.
monkeyfitNov 12, 2005
My friend installed Ubuntu on my old laptop. I used it for a little bit. Then I installed Kubuntu on the laptop and my desktop. Linux is ready for the desktop. It just took an OS to make it somewhat easy (I only say somewhat easy because you still have to do a little tinkering to get hardware working properly and must perform SOME things with the terminal, which my grandma probably isn't up to). And adding last minute features can f**k up any program. Look at MS. They tried to add a bunch of features and now beta 2 has been delayed while they work bugs out. And that's with dropping some of the added features. He needs to yell at them if they're adding features when they should be debugging. f**king slackers. ;)
fumanchuNov 12, 2005
Getting back on the actual TOPIC of the story:LT is absolutely correct. I'm not a software developer, and can't claim knowledge about coding kernels. The only kernels I deal with are the ones I pop and put on salt & LOTS of butter.People I know a little better. I've never headed any kind of project or committee that wasn't slowed down --sometimes to near-stand-still-- by people passing the buck when it comes to keeping a schedule. The whole reason to break down any organizational task into working sub-groups is so that each department supervisor can put the horsewhip to his own limited number of people. One guy/gal at the top can't get tough with the "bottlenecks" in the whole project. Torvalds is right to crack the whip at the guys whose job it is to crack the whip at their teams. Last point: we're talking about an open-source community, not a profit-making business conglomerate, right? You can't apply the same standards to volunteer labor, right?Well, most of my managerial experience is in volunteer, Not-for-Profit organizations. The people who volunteer. . . and then decide they'd rather shampoo the poodle instead of putting in a couple tough hours Sunday night to meet the Monday AM deadline. . .!They need to be told that a voluntary contract is still a contract. You agreed to do it, not quit screwing everybody else up, and do you job. Or get out.Bad attitude? Not at all. 90% of the rest of the crew will kiss the hand of any manager who weeds out the deadwood. Morale usually skyrockets after the initial shock wears of, and people see their efforts really paying off instead of going nowhere because of the slackers.--from "The Wisdom of Fu" vol. XII, chap. 23