winsupersite.com— Paul Thurnott, who is usually excited about all things Microsoft seems very dissapointed with Windows Vista. Here is the conlusion of his review of the latest CTP. He still gives it 5 pauls though.
Apr 19, 2006View in Crawl 4
I can't understand how he can say this. He writes an entire article about what a huge disappointment Vista is and then he says it will exceed OS X and Linux. How? Early on Vista did promise some features that are not available in OS X but they're having a hard time delivering on any of them. Besides, Thurrot even admits that the features that MS has copied from OS X and Linux don't work nearly as well to the point of being completely frustrating. Also when you consider that Leopard will most probably ship around the same time (or before) I think that statement is little more than wishful thinking.
You are joking right? Considering the s**t that Apple has gone through in its past with Microsoft and the fact they are still here GAINING marketshare I hardly think they are going anywhere anytime soon. Consumers arent as dumb anymore as they used to be concerning computers. As the generation who grew up with computers start making the computer purchases, intelligent buyers arent just going to rush out and buy Vista because "thats all there is" if it sucks and doesnt fix at least some of their security issues.Lets see, should I buy a HP desktop and run windows, or buy a sexy Mac and run any OS I want....
paragraph 4, page 1 "For now, please understand that I was getting ready to be very negative about this build. I was prepared to be unimpressed. But Microsoft has pulled a fast one. The February CTP isn't just good, it's great. In fact, I'm feeling better about Windows Vista than I have in a long, long time."i think that kind of says it
"I agree, this definitely proves he is no MS lacky. However, I disagree with him on several counts. The glass theme is not bad at all. People tend to click on the window they want to use, when they want to use it, making "focus" pretty unecessary, a relic of the non-multitasking days of Windows 3.1. "Wtf? How is knowing which window is receiving input somehow an unnecessary relic of the non-multitasking days of Windows 3.1? What does Windows 3.1 have to do with anything?If you have three Explorer windows open with files selected in them and you hit "delete," don't you want to be able to know at a glance which file is going to be deleted?Your comment is beyond ridiculous. It's not a "relic" (seriously, wtf?), it's basic common sense. You would require everyone to re-click their windows because they would never be sure which one had focus or not. That's awful.
I disagree. I think Mark goes out of his way to criticize microsoft simply to show that he's objective, although many time I sense some kind of cold calculation going on and believe that he does not really support the criticism.
"MS products are never complete."Neither are most software products. "Stop apologizing for MS using the "its a beta" excuse. Its not cool."Never said that, in fact, I actually said that some of their stuff sucks."Dude, were you paid by MS to put that in."I wish.
quoigonfishinApr 20, 2006
I can't understand how he can say this. He writes an entire article about what a huge disappointment Vista is and then he says it will exceed OS X and Linux. How? Early on Vista did promise some features that are not available in OS X but they're having a hard time delivering on any of them. Besides, Thurrot even admits that the features that MS has copied from OS X and Linux don't work nearly as well to the point of being completely frustrating. Also when you consider that Leopard will most probably ship around the same time (or before) I think that statement is little more than wishful thinking.
s0nyApr 20, 2006
You are joking right? Considering the s**t that Apple has gone through in its past with Microsoft and the fact they are still here GAINING marketshare I hardly think they are going anywhere anytime soon. Consumers arent as dumb anymore as they used to be concerning computers. As the generation who grew up with computers start making the computer purchases, intelligent buyers arent just going to rush out and buy Vista because "thats all there is" if it sucks and doesnt fix at least some of their security issues.Lets see, should I buy a HP desktop and run windows, or buy a sexy Mac and run any OS I want....
jrbrewinApr 20, 2006
paragraph 4, page 1 "For now, please understand that I was getting ready to be very negative about this build. I was prepared to be unimpressed. But Microsoft has pulled a fast one. The February CTP isn't just good, it's great. In fact, I'm feeling better about Windows Vista than I have in a long, long time."i think that kind of says it
judgefireApr 20, 2006
""Heck, half of the features of Windows Vista seem to have been lifted from Apple's marketing materials"""How can that be when Microsoft showed the glass interface in October 27, 2003?"Apple introduced translucent window titlebars in 2000, in Mac OS X DP3. They've since scaled down on their use, since overlapping stuff actually got hard to read.<a class="user" href="http://arstechnica.com/reviews/1q00/macos-x-dp3/trans-trouble.jpg">http://arstechnica.com/reviews/1q00/macos-x-dp3/trans-trouble.jpg</a>J
Closed AccountApr 20, 2006
"I agree, this definitely proves he is no MS lacky. However, I disagree with him on several counts. The glass theme is not bad at all. People tend to click on the window they want to use, when they want to use it, making "focus" pretty unecessary, a relic of the non-multitasking days of Windows 3.1. "Wtf? How is knowing which window is receiving input somehow an unnecessary relic of the non-multitasking days of Windows 3.1? What does Windows 3.1 have to do with anything?If you have three Explorer windows open with files selected in them and you hit "delete," don't you want to be able to know at a glance which file is going to be deleted?Your comment is beyond ridiculous. It's not a "relic" (seriously, wtf?), it's basic common sense. You would require everyone to re-click their windows because they would never be sure which one had focus or not. That's awful.
mscamaraApr 20, 2006
I disagree. I think Mark goes out of his way to criticize microsoft simply to show that he's objective, although many time I sense some kind of cold calculation going on and believe that he does not really support the criticism.
fathedApr 20, 2006
"MS products are never complete."Neither are most software products. "Stop apologizing for MS using the "its a beta" excuse. Its not cool."Never said that, in fact, I actually said that some of their stuff sucks."Dude, were you paid by MS to put that in."I wish.