arstechnica.com— The world used 197 million new IPv4 addresses in 2008, leaving 926 million addresses still available. The US remains the biggest user of new addresses, but China is catching up quick.
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IPV4 has had about 3 to 4 years of life left in it for about 15 years now.Having said that, I think you are right. about 3 to 5 years, IPv6 is going to "pop" big.Its already being test deployed here and there. If IP is your thing, learn it now and you can make some good money in a few years by being one the few IPv6 pros.
Okay seriously, the "Related by Key Word" thing is stupid. It just suggested a "09 F9 11 2 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" post from the big revolt.
Sorry, but you're dead wrong. All of those IP addresses that have been allocated are as good as used. When it comes to organizations requesting a new allocation, the RIR can't just go looking around and tell Network A that, since they're not using some of their addresses, they're gonna go ahead and allocate those to Network B instead. No, the RIR has to pull unallocated addresses out of it's ass and give them away. Thus, the "squirreled away" addresses are what actually matters.The only thing that can really help is registries tightening their belts and being more stringent about making sure the networks receiving address space have used their previous allocations. However, this has been going on for quite some time now, at least with ARIN, who require you to show that you're using something like 75 or 80% of your previously allocated address space, and require specifics on any allocation larger than a /28.The IPv4 address space shortage is real.
While lazyness may be a factor (and the very real costs of reallocation), I've worked on a WLAN project with a few IT people at a major east coast university a few years back. The folks I dealt with were some of the most arrogant jerks I ever had to work with in my career. They spent a lot of time telling me about their fiber optic backbone and how they just upgraded to 100baseFX to get ready for Internet 2, and how everyone on campus (even the dorms) had a static IP address because they have several class A subnets. You'd better believe they know what they have and aren't going to give it up easily.The sad thing is, the colleges could easily be the ones spearheading the move to IPv6. They have a very large turnover in client hardware (many kids throw out their PC at the end of the spring semester), and they generally don't have a lot of interaction with the outside world. The only issue may be that they don't have a lot of control over what goes on their network (professors love to run their own servers, kids wiring up the coke machines, etc), a controlled roll out would be much easier than trying to get ISPs to do it first. And doesn't the Internet2 already run IPv6?Besides that, most technology s**ts happen in business much later than in universities.
Um, apparently you've never worked in ecommerce or any type of marketing/advertising.Every single online store, even things like ad sense, get fraudulent transactions where the vast majority of them, literally 90% and above, originate from China.Next time educate yourself before looking like an idiot - this info has been pretty common place for the past 7 years or so.It's a *huge* problem because their govt doesn't do s**t about it.
oboshoeJan 3, 2009
IPV4 has had about 3 to 4 years of life left in it for about 15 years now.Having said that, I think you are right. about 3 to 5 years, IPv6 is going to "pop" big.Its already being test deployed here and there. If IP is your thing, learn it now and you can make some good money in a few years by being one the few IPv6 pros.
inorganicmatterJan 3, 2009
Okay seriously, the "Related by Key Word" thing is stupid. It just suggested a "09 F9 11 2 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" post from the big revolt.
Closed AccountJan 3, 2009
I guess arstechnica is paying big money.... Funny, they seem to be on the frontpage a lot lately and always thanks to MMB or msaleem. f**k them both.
Closed AccountJan 3, 2009
Sorry, but you're dead wrong. All of those IP addresses that have been allocated are as good as used. When it comes to organizations requesting a new allocation, the RIR can't just go looking around and tell Network A that, since they're not using some of their addresses, they're gonna go ahead and allocate those to Network B instead. No, the RIR has to pull unallocated addresses out of it's ass and give them away. Thus, the "squirreled away" addresses are what actually matters.The only thing that can really help is registries tightening their belts and being more stringent about making sure the networks receiving address space have used their previous allocations. However, this has been going on for quite some time now, at least with ARIN, who require you to show that you're using something like 75 or 80% of your previously allocated address space, and require specifics on any allocation larger than a /28.The IPv4 address space shortage is real.
reddikilowattJan 3, 2009
While lazyness may be a factor (and the very real costs of reallocation), I've worked on a WLAN project with a few IT people at a major east coast university a few years back. The folks I dealt with were some of the most arrogant jerks I ever had to work with in my career. They spent a lot of time telling me about their fiber optic backbone and how they just upgraded to 100baseFX to get ready for Internet 2, and how everyone on campus (even the dorms) had a static IP address because they have several class A subnets. You'd better believe they know what they have and aren't going to give it up easily.The sad thing is, the colleges could easily be the ones spearheading the move to IPv6. They have a very large turnover in client hardware (many kids throw out their PC at the end of the spring semester), and they generally don't have a lot of interaction with the outside world. The only issue may be that they don't have a lot of control over what goes on their network (professors love to run their own servers, kids wiring up the coke machines, etc), a controlled roll out would be much easier than trying to get ISPs to do it first. And doesn't the Internet2 already run IPv6?Besides that, most technology s**ts happen in business much later than in universities.
Closed AccountJan 4, 2009
Um, apparently you've never worked in ecommerce or any type of marketing/advertising.Every single online store, even things like ad sense, get fraudulent transactions where the vast majority of them, literally 90% and above, originate from China.Next time educate yourself before looking like an idiot - this info has been pretty common place for the past 7 years or so.It's a *huge* problem because their govt doesn't do s**t about it.