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this guy cant tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p? 1080p looks twice as good, because it has twice the resolution. and he watched a movie on it? one that was filmed with film cameras that only do 24p? of course its going to look the same, because it is. Unless he had a game system running at full 60p, there is no way to compare it, and i don't think the 360 can handle many games at 1080p without framing quite a bit. Interlacing is the worst thing to ever come to TVs, and what separates them from monitors. Buried as inaccurate.
Since i just upgraded to 1080p LCD from an older 1080i LCD I have to say the picture quality is noticable. On movies it's not a big deal but i use an HTPC and that is were the 1080p wins hands down. Oh, and at $1299 for a 37" 1080p LCD from Newegg (free shipping) how can you not go 1080p?
You won't be able to notice the difference between 720p and 1080p at normal viewing distances on anything below a 42" screen unless you go right up to the screen (which is not a normal viewing distance), you're running a PC output where every pixel is discernable, or you have native 1080p text with details. Even in those cases, you need a trained eye to see it.That's why resolution matters so much on a computer monitor - you're normally around 1ft. away. Not so when you're 6-7 ft. away from your tv sitting on your couch. At 42" and above starts to break the 1080p threshold, and it DOES matter for most content at that point.
anon41414: You got it right, brother! There is a definite lack of understanding of what 1080p really means. 1080i is still 1920x1080, the same number of pixels as 1080p.Another thing that is everyone seems to forget is that fixed-pixel displays (like plasma and LCD) always show a progressive picture. If you stick a 1080i signal into any LCD or plasma display, you will get a progressive picture. So if you have a 1920x1080 LCD or plasma, the picture on the screen will be, by definition, 1080p, no matter what came into the set. What really makes a difference is how well the set can de-interlace and up/down-convert input signals, be they 720p, 1080i, 480i, 1080p, or whatever.Maybe it's just me, but a "1080p set" means that the set is capable of accepting a 1080p input signal and displaying it (at full resolution, hopefully). As there are almost no ways you can get pure 1080p input signals, the premium you pay for a "1080p set" is not worth it. Just look for a 1920x1080 pixel set.
@johnvid, you've got it reversed. Interlaced is *worse* for action. Edges in an interlaced action scene will be jagged and smeared, because only half the scan lines are updated with each scan of the screen. Progressive scan has no jaggies or smears.
The article is accurate in saying that the price you pay for 1080p isn't worth it today. Give it another year or so and the format and price will stabalize like HDMI did in 2006.+digg
wolfghostNov 11, 2006
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ragonamuffinNov 11, 2006
this guy cant tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p? 1080p looks twice as good, because it has twice the resolution. and he watched a movie on it? one that was filmed with film cameras that only do 24p? of course its going to look the same, because it is. Unless he had a game system running at full 60p, there is no way to compare it, and i don't think the 360 can handle many games at 1080p without framing quite a bit. Interlacing is the worst thing to ever come to TVs, and what separates them from monitors. Buried as inaccurate.
aikomikoNov 11, 2006
Since i just upgraded to 1080p LCD from an older 1080i LCD I have to say the picture quality is noticable. On movies it's not a big deal but i use an HTPC and that is were the 1080p wins hands down. Oh, and at $1299 for a 37" 1080p LCD from Newegg (free shipping) how can you not go 1080p?
kniggitNov 11, 2006
You won't be able to notice the difference between 720p and 1080p at normal viewing distances on anything below a 42" screen unless you go right up to the screen (which is not a normal viewing distance), you're running a PC output where every pixel is discernable, or you have native 1080p text with details. Even in those cases, you need a trained eye to see it.That's why resolution matters so much on a computer monitor - you're normally around 1ft. away. Not so when you're 6-7 ft. away from your tv sitting on your couch. At 42" and above starts to break the 1080p threshold, and it DOES matter for most content at that point.
joemarusNov 11, 2006
anon41414: You got it right, brother! There is a definite lack of understanding of what 1080p really means. 1080i is still 1920x1080, the same number of pixels as 1080p.Another thing that is everyone seems to forget is that fixed-pixel displays (like plasma and LCD) always show a progressive picture. If you stick a 1080i signal into any LCD or plasma display, you will get a progressive picture. So if you have a 1920x1080 LCD or plasma, the picture on the screen will be, by definition, 1080p, no matter what came into the set. What really makes a difference is how well the set can de-interlace and up/down-convert input signals, be they 720p, 1080i, 480i, 1080p, or whatever.Maybe it's just me, but a "1080p set" means that the set is capable of accepting a 1080p input signal and displaying it (at full resolution, hopefully). As there are almost no ways you can get pure 1080p input signals, the premium you pay for a "1080p set" is not worth it. Just look for a 1920x1080 pixel set.
streakNov 12, 2006
@johnvid, you've got it reversed. Interlaced is *worse* for action. Edges in an interlaced action scene will be jagged and smeared, because only half the scan lines are updated with each scan of the screen. Progressive scan has no jaggies or smears.
drawkusNov 12, 2006
The article is accurate in saying that the price you pay for 1080p isn't worth it today. Give it another year or so and the format and price will stabalize like HDMI did in 2006.+digg
mcgirtNov 29, 2006
That's not an LCD.