nytimes.com — Scientists sometimes refer to the effect a hotter world will have on this country?s fresh water as the other water problem, because global warming more commonly evokes the spectre of rising oceans submerging our great coastal cities.
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railerOct 23, 2007
@Rhodamine - I'm in northern Canada excuse me if I don't pay attention to local water issues, you don't know off the top of your head, current water trend to slave lake do you? See your arrogance is showing again there, I'm just reading from the article. And again I state these trends you keeps talking about were seen in the US in the 1930's. And guess what there were hard time's but IT WAS NATURAL and we survived nicely. (I say nicely not that it was not hard but we were so resourceful that the US went on within a decade or to help, a huge help, stop the second world war.) the point is the article is assuming this is a unique man made event that's not going away, (Global Warming), and from that stance makes all further predictions, and what I'm saying is, it's not unique (1930's) and two it's a natural cycle that we already see is receding.
bigbluecarbonOct 23, 2007
you people are like palm readersw/out crystal balls
railerOct 23, 2007
".....But that's exactly the point of global warming alarmists is that they are arrogant beyond belief."You're not very self aware, are you? I'll tell you what, when I say I can control the worlds climate and weather then you can ask if I'm "self aware"
Closed AccountOct 23, 2007
@Railer"Action on a global scale can't have a global effect" - but as I've pointed out the antarctic is cooling, therefore not global effect, therefore maybe wrong."-From the fellow who published an journal article on Antarctic cooling: "Our paper concluded that a small area of Antarctica called the McMurdo Dry Valleys had cooled over the 14 year period between 1986 and 2000, quickly changing the ecosystem in dramatic ways. We also included in that paper a plot and a few brief sentences about a continental cooling trend over the longer period of 1966 and 2000. Though it was only a small component of the paper, this latter portion became the focus of the popular press and something of a legend among those who struggle to argue that global warming theory is unsound. Right-wing pundits and the main stream media alike sensationalized the story and linked it to another paper in the journal Science out around the same time which showed that a part of Antarctica had been thickening. This connection to our findings was often made despite the other paper’s lead author insisting that his results had nothing to do with modern climate.I mistakenly thought that over time, the misuse of our results would slowly fade, but it seems this practice has instead grown. Our results have now been used as "evidence" against global warming by Ann Coulter in her latest book, "Godless: The Church of Liberalism", which followed closely Michael Crichton’s misuse of our results in his novel/congressional testimony, "State of Fear". If you search my name on the web, you will find pages of examples of misuse of our results in everything from climate discussion groups to Senate policy committee documents. Not only has this abuse grown, it has evolved. Someone recently sent me a link to a web column where I was quoted as saying "the unexpected colder climate in Antarctica may possibly be signaling a lessening of the current global warming cycle". As Jon Stewart might say…“whaaaa?” Not only have I never thought such a thing, I’ve definitely never said it!"-Antarctic Cooling? July 25, 2006-Peter Doran, Associate Professor of Earth and Environmental Sciences-The University of Illinois at Chicago<a class="user" href="http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/antarctic_cooling.html">http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/antarctic_cooling.ht ...</a>
Closed AccountOct 25, 2007
Railer- This is clearly a weak point for you to stand on. There are far too many, and far too well know, widely accepted precedents for you to successfully argue that man is incapable of large scale meddling.Here are a few other examples:Atmospheric lead peaks in 1979 (1570 times the natural background value)<a class="user" href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/281">http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/281</a> ...The well know causes of ozone depletion due to man-made CFC'sWhy bother with links. This information is ubiquitousWorld wide increases in bio-accumulated metals in top predatorsibidAll kinds of anthropogenic synthetic chemicals found in soils, plant, and animal tissues worldwide. ibidthe list goes on. It seems that you are the one that might need to wake up. You're ideology getting in your own way here.Also- don't put words in my mouth. You do this often in your rhetoric to suits your needs. I don't do it to you. I (and your) should expect the same courtesy from an educated adult. Just one example: "You say we can do it in 30" -Don't do this. It makes you look feeble.
Closed AccountOct 25, 2007
Railer, One more thing"again you take apples and orange juice, you're right us "tiny insignificant humans" can make "tiny insignificant" changes damming a river cause urban islands are VERY SMALL effects, ........Yada yada yada.......The world is 197,060,800 square miles so we have urbanized so that about .04% of the surface of the planet, but guess where the majority of the weather stations are located."This is also a pathetic argument and most folks here should see that. This hardly qualifies as a poor example let alone something that refutes what I said earlier.
Closed AccountOct 25, 2007
So the water is being used up behind the dam? I think that you mean it's being 'detained'. You see, if the rate at which it arrives at the reservoir is greater than the rate at which it is released, it will be breached and fall apart into little pieces. And people will be killed. There is some room to play with water levels but ultimately the water is used up as irrigation. "you Rhodamine are a bigot and an arrogant prick, I don't like people like you on digg or in RL."Does this really mean we can't be friends? I saw you being really nasty to vikingcoder too but I didn't know that you really had problem with me in particular. I think this hurts my feelings.But you're right Sometimes, especially when you point it out, I really do feel like a loser. I just pointed out when you mistake effect for affect, its and it's, their there and they're (and other 5th grade English class issues) because I wanted to help you to put your best foot forward. Folks would see how smart you were by your powerful command of the English language. I guess I was wrong. My bad.
beststrollersMay 11, 2008
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