esquire.com— As McCain decides how to counter Obama's Biden selection, they can both take solace in knowing their predecessors set the bar low.
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I expected to see a list that looks similar to this.1 Joe Biden2 Joe Biden3 Joe Biden4 Joe Biden5 Joe Biden6 Joe Biden7 Joe Biden8 Joe Biden9 Joe Biden10 Joe Biden
LOL cnot. Bob Barr, the guy who introduced articles of impeachment against Clinton and emphatically backed Bush's wars and the Patriot Act? Yeah, a real class act. Oh, right. He's "changed." LOL.septicmadman: free information is a nice idea, but it would require major economic restructuring. It's also still far less important than many of the things c010rb1indusa listed. If we all die due to catastrophic climate change, federal regulation protecting net neutrality won't do a damn bit of good. At any rate, NO major candidate proposes anything close to free information, so opposing Biden because he doesn't either makes little sense unless you plan on starting a revolution.
Explain to me how Aaron Burr could on a list of the dumbest VP Picks? Back in those days, the second place Presidential candidate became the VP. So under those circumstances, Al Gore would have been George W.'s VP. (And his father would have been Bill Clinton's). The entire argument about how combative a VP Burr was is a load of B.S. Burr had his own party's agendas to look after.The problem that historians have with Burr is that for the most part Jefferson is portrayed as a saint in the political arenas of that day. Burr, as his rival, would most undoubtably be painted in a less favorable light. The famous duel with Alexander Hamilton is an excellent point. The accusations that Hamilton made in his paper's editorials were below reproach even in our modern day of sleezy tabloid journalism. But last I checked my billfold, somehow the publisher of the National Enquirer of the 18th century managed to get in my wallet.
"Absolutely demolished by Democratic nominee Lloyd Bentsen in the VP debate -- apparently there was a comparison to John F. Kennedy, and it wasn't very flattering..."WOW! What a bent-ackwards assessment! That debate, and especially that "John F. Kennedy was a friend of mine" line is one of my all time favorite jokes. When I first heard it, I was laughing uncontrollably for the next half hour. That was the moment when I knew the Kerry/Bensen ticket was finished. What gall to say such a thing. In that election, the fiscally liberal elder Bush (who caved to democrat pressure to approve their tax hikes) was not trusted by conservatives. The selection of Senator Quayle enabled conservatives to justify voting, and the selection of Palin in the current election will have a similar result. Personally, I liked McCain, but I was not planning to vote, because McCain's conservative credentials are poor. My attitude was "if I'm going to vote for a Democrat, I'd rather vote for the real thing." Since McCain selected Palin, my wife is suddenly animated about the election, watching news programs she never cared about before. McCain's selection of Palin sent a strong message to the core of the Republican party that McCain is serious about keeping his promises to conservatives. I will never believe he is a real conservative, but I believe he will keep his promises. I am pleased with Palin because my wife is finally excited to vote Republican. I am pleased with Palin because her popularity exposes the lies of Democrats about the identity and the attitudes of social conservatives like me. I am pleased with Palin (and McCain) because the cross-burning sheet-wearing contingent of the GOP is going to be silenced for an election cycle (they are the real embarrassment of the GOP, and I'm glad to see them loose their voice). I am pleased with Palin and McCain because I know they will deal with the immigration issue with compassion. (I was a little scared of Romney on that issue--I care about immigrants, and I want them given a fair chance to join us if they want. Growth and diversity make our country stronger.) Finally, I'm pleased with Palin, because she is an iconic example of the rugged American Spirit. She won't "talk" with terrorists like Obama, and she won't Nuke first, ask questions later like Hillary. (Hillary's motto is "obliterate," then negotiate. She scares me.)
jaxter2010Aug 27, 2008
How was Cheney a bad pick for VP? Bush got elected....twice. Are we listing s**tty VPs or s**tty VP picks?
thaddeuspresleyAug 27, 2008
I expected to see a list that looks similar to this.1 Joe Biden2 Joe Biden3 Joe Biden4 Joe Biden5 Joe Biden6 Joe Biden7 Joe Biden8 Joe Biden9 Joe Biden10 Joe Biden
solistusAug 27, 2008
LOL cnot. Bob Barr, the guy who introduced articles of impeachment against Clinton and emphatically backed Bush's wars and the Patriot Act? Yeah, a real class act. Oh, right. He's "changed." LOL.septicmadman: free information is a nice idea, but it would require major economic restructuring. It's also still far less important than many of the things c010rb1indusa listed. If we all die due to catastrophic climate change, federal regulation protecting net neutrality won't do a damn bit of good. At any rate, NO major candidate proposes anything close to free information, so opposing Biden because he doesn't either makes little sense unless you plan on starting a revolution.
devinkevAug 27, 2008
Explain to me how Aaron Burr could on a list of the dumbest VP Picks? Back in those days, the second place Presidential candidate became the VP. So under those circumstances, Al Gore would have been George W.'s VP. (And his father would have been Bill Clinton's). The entire argument about how combative a VP Burr was is a load of B.S. Burr had his own party's agendas to look after.The problem that historians have with Burr is that for the most part Jefferson is portrayed as a saint in the political arenas of that day. Burr, as his rival, would most undoubtably be painted in a less favorable light. The famous duel with Alexander Hamilton is an excellent point. The accusations that Hamilton made in his paper's editorials were below reproach even in our modern day of sleezy tabloid journalism. But last I checked my billfold, somehow the publisher of the National Enquirer of the 18th century managed to get in my wallet.
Closed AccountAug 27, 2008
Lieberman. muahahahaa.It's just so evil it might work.
ufoericaAug 28, 2008
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dad57Sep 7, 2008
"Absolutely demolished by Democratic nominee Lloyd Bentsen in the VP debate -- apparently there was a comparison to John F. Kennedy, and it wasn't very flattering..."WOW! What a bent-ackwards assessment! That debate, and especially that "John F. Kennedy was a friend of mine" line is one of my all time favorite jokes. When I first heard it, I was laughing uncontrollably for the next half hour. That was the moment when I knew the Kerry/Bensen ticket was finished. What gall to say such a thing. In that election, the fiscally liberal elder Bush (who caved to democrat pressure to approve their tax hikes) was not trusted by conservatives. The selection of Senator Quayle enabled conservatives to justify voting, and the selection of Palin in the current election will have a similar result. Personally, I liked McCain, but I was not planning to vote, because McCain's conservative credentials are poor. My attitude was "if I'm going to vote for a Democrat, I'd rather vote for the real thing." Since McCain selected Palin, my wife is suddenly animated about the election, watching news programs she never cared about before. McCain's selection of Palin sent a strong message to the core of the Republican party that McCain is serious about keeping his promises to conservatives. I will never believe he is a real conservative, but I believe he will keep his promises. I am pleased with Palin because my wife is finally excited to vote Republican. I am pleased with Palin because her popularity exposes the lies of Democrats about the identity and the attitudes of social conservatives like me. I am pleased with Palin (and McCain) because the cross-burning sheet-wearing contingent of the GOP is going to be silenced for an election cycle (they are the real embarrassment of the GOP, and I'm glad to see them loose their voice). I am pleased with Palin and McCain because I know they will deal with the immigration issue with compassion. (I was a little scared of Romney on that issue--I care about immigrants, and I want them given a fair chance to join us if they want. Growth and diversity make our country stronger.) Finally, I'm pleased with Palin, because she is an iconic example of the rugged American Spirit. She won't "talk" with terrorists like Obama, and she won't Nuke first, ask questions later like Hillary. (Hillary's motto is "obliterate," then negotiate. She scares me.)