abcnews.go.com — Two of the four leaders allegedly behind the al Qaeda plot to blow up a Northwest Airlines passenger jet over Detroit were released by the U.S. from the Guantanamo prison in November 2007, according to American officials and Department of Defense documents.
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darkciti2Dec 29, 2009
No, extending it indefinitely is what 5 year olds do when they make up a game.Adults, on the other hand, define rules and play the game accordingly. In the adult world of today, it's called diplomacy. In the wannabe adult world, it's "kill all the arabs and people that don't look like me".Life is a game. You can play it like an adult, or you can play it like a close minded 5 year old. At the end of the day, the adult always wins.Live accordingly.
isenborgDec 29, 2009
I agree. It's time for us to go Spartan on these bitches.
mcnerdDec 29, 2009
@CySailor: War is the continuation of politics by other means, according to Clausewitz, who had a better "concept of what war is" than either of us does.It's certainly barbaric, but to say that it absolutely must be characterized by a complete lack of consideration for rules of human decency is simply wrong, and even a cursory look at history shows it. War can be carried out in many different ways, according to the political goals it is intended to serve. And those goals may include:-protection of human rights,-maintenance of your country's image in the community of nations,-maintenance of the "moral high ground" over your opponent in that regime,-the protection of one's own soldiers and civilians from retaliatory rights violations, or -the prevention of additional terrorist recruitment,all of which are undermined by our behavior at Guantanamo and elsewhere.
mcnerdDec 29, 2009
uh sandman979,Obama, having pushed for Guantanamo's closure (however weakly and pathetically), looks bad to some people by making this information public. Some crappy propaganda that is.
doomDec 29, 2009
NMR, and I'm trying to tell you that all your ideas would get us is an army that isn't fighting for anything worthwhile and more civilians who are trying to kill them than were originally. I'll tell you right now that if motherf**kers from another country came to my neighborhood and lit up my innocent family to save their asses that I would make f**king CERTAIN they would die in horrific ways. Gloves f**king off. AND I'd help any other guy who was trying to do the same thing. Your ideas lead to MORE death not less and for absolutely NO reason.
theother1Dec 30, 2009
Still think closing Gitmo is a good idea?
theother1Dec 30, 2009
@Anomaly100How is newl using their first amendment right and expressing their opinion infringing on your rights? Which of your rights, specifically, are being infringed upon? If you will read the post again, this time carefully and using all of that 103 years of reading comprehension you have racked up, you will see newl never once used the word revolution.
tritechJan 1, 2010
You missed my point. My comment was on the guys released from Gitmo to the Saudis for the crayon rehab. Some went to Yemen and are back to being terrorists. It would have been better to kill those guys and not have to worry about them anymore. I sympathise about folks unjustly being put on the no-fly list just because they get flagged for some reason.
tritechJan 1, 2010
You missed my point. My comment was on the guys released from Gitmo to the Saudis for the crayon rehab. Some went to Yemen and are back to being terrorists. It would have been better to kill those guys and not have to worry about them anymore. I sympathise about folks unjustly being put on the no-fly list just because they get flagged for some reason.