I agree with the top poster, but I think having a morals class would be beneficial to everyone. I go to a private Catholic school (not Catholic, if anyone cares), and this year we have a morality class. It is easily one of the best classes I've ever taken, religion aside. For once, school actually feel relevant. Bible studies in public schools though? Ehhh, what about Quran studies or Buddhism studies? It's just a slippery slope when it comes down to the Bible in public schools.
You know why the schools take away the rights of students? Because if we didn't, nothing would get done in class.I'm not saying you are a bad student, but as teachers we can't let you have your iPod, and take it away from another student. It's a classic case of the good being punished for the deeds of the bad. The same applies to the dress code, internet monitoring, etc. etc.I would love to let my kids listen to their iPods while writing code in class, but I can't. You know why? Some jackass will listen to something vulgar, and ruin it for everyone else.Once again, if values and respect could somehow make their way BACK into school, I think the profession would attract more quality people, and the rules could be relaxed. Do you think I like searching bags? I can careless if you have a pack of gum in your bag, but that gang-wanna-be-thug with a gun is the one to blame. Not the principal of the teachers. We REACT to what we are given by poor parents.I dare some of you to be teachers, and then come back and read these threads after 5 years in a classroom. If I didn't teach an elective course, I would have quit a long time ago. Luckily, 99% of the kids in my class want to be there, so I don't deal with the verbal assaults, threats, and disruptions my colleagues do.I get so sick of hearing kids whine about their rights. What about MY rights not to be insulted or disrespected in my workplace? I have the same internet filters on my computer, same restrictions on chat and email, and same dress code policies as the students. Grow up and realize who is causing the problems. It's not the teachers, it's the students and bad parents that drive the rules and regulations to be made.
Thought . . . . Based on the comments here, does anyone think it wise to allow religion in public schools ? IMO, it seems to be just another stress inducing topic that students would have to contend with. Remember, if you allow one religion in, you have to allow them all. Popular or not. This would include Islam, Satanism, Wiccan, and list of others as long as you can possibly think of. Pandora's Box would be the end result. Best way to deal with it is to leave the preaching to the private sector. Students pick on each other already for silly reasons. Being a jock / geek / goth / insert your flavor here. Do you REALLY want to add religion to this mix ? Adults can't seem to control themselves when it comes down to religion. Hell, we've been killing each other over it in one form or another for millennia. If the adults of this planet can't show some tolerance, do you expect to see it in schools ?Kids have enough to worry about in school as it is. Just my .02
To answer your attack on Atheism and scientific theory, if we consider the big bang the "beginning", then according to some string theory ideas, and these are just ideas, they could easily be wrong like anything else in science, time did not exist until the big bang, so in our universe there was no "before" when talking about the big bang, so one cannot talk about what was there before the big bang, or what caused the big bang. Also, it is ignorant to think we can know what is outside of our physical universe. You really expect our science to be so advanced we could discover what existed before the creation of everything? Philosophy can hardly exist when talking about something so unknown.
@ TheUngodActually in highschool that's has happened to a good friend of mines. He called a teacher a motherf**ker, and the police came in and arrested him. I was in KAnsas at the time, and apparently cussing out a teacher there is a felony.
xinexJan 19, 2007
I agree with the top poster, but I think having a morals class would be beneficial to everyone. I go to a private Catholic school (not Catholic, if anyone cares), and this year we have a morality class. It is easily one of the best classes I've ever taken, religion aside. For once, school actually feel relevant. Bible studies in public schools though? Ehhh, what about Quran studies or Buddhism studies? It's just a slippery slope when it comes down to the Bible in public schools.
trfcrugbyJan 19, 2007
You know why the schools take away the rights of students? Because if we didn't, nothing would get done in class.I'm not saying you are a bad student, but as teachers we can't let you have your iPod, and take it away from another student. It's a classic case of the good being punished for the deeds of the bad. The same applies to the dress code, internet monitoring, etc. etc.I would love to let my kids listen to their iPods while writing code in class, but I can't. You know why? Some jackass will listen to something vulgar, and ruin it for everyone else.Once again, if values and respect could somehow make their way BACK into school, I think the profession would attract more quality people, and the rules could be relaxed. Do you think I like searching bags? I can careless if you have a pack of gum in your bag, but that gang-wanna-be-thug with a gun is the one to blame. Not the principal of the teachers. We REACT to what we are given by poor parents.I dare some of you to be teachers, and then come back and read these threads after 5 years in a classroom. If I didn't teach an elective course, I would have quit a long time ago. Luckily, 99% of the kids in my class want to be there, so I don't deal with the verbal assaults, threats, and disruptions my colleagues do.I get so sick of hearing kids whine about their rights. What about MY rights not to be insulted or disrespected in my workplace? I have the same internet filters on my computer, same restrictions on chat and email, and same dress code policies as the students. Grow up and realize who is causing the problems. It's not the teachers, it's the students and bad parents that drive the rules and regulations to be made.
nehumanuscredeJan 19, 2007
Thought . . . . Based on the comments here, does anyone think it wise to allow religion in public schools ? IMO, it seems to be just another stress inducing topic that students would have to contend with. Remember, if you allow one religion in, you have to allow them all. Popular or not. This would include Islam, Satanism, Wiccan, and list of others as long as you can possibly think of. Pandora's Box would be the end result. Best way to deal with it is to leave the preaching to the private sector. Students pick on each other already for silly reasons. Being a jock / geek / goth / insert your flavor here. Do you REALLY want to add religion to this mix ? Adults can't seem to control themselves when it comes down to religion. Hell, we've been killing each other over it in one form or another for millennia. If the adults of this planet can't show some tolerance, do you expect to see it in schools ?Kids have enough to worry about in school as it is. Just my .02
catbellerJan 19, 2007
It's pretty obvious from a lot of posts that defunding education produces people who don't understand why a society needs well funded schools.
managoreJan 20, 2007
To answer your attack on Atheism and scientific theory, if we consider the big bang the "beginning", then according to some string theory ideas, and these are just ideas, they could easily be wrong like anything else in science, time did not exist until the big bang, so in our universe there was no "before" when talking about the big bang, so one cannot talk about what was there before the big bang, or what caused the big bang. Also, it is ignorant to think we can know what is outside of our physical universe. You really expect our science to be so advanced we could discover what existed before the creation of everything? Philosophy can hardly exist when talking about something so unknown.
kuzotzJan 20, 2007
@ TheUngodActually in highschool that's has happened to a good friend of mines. He called a teacher a motherf**ker, and the police came in and arrested him. I was in KAnsas at the time, and apparently cussing out a teacher there is a felony.
coolmaster121Jan 22, 2007
That is not actual law, that is just people explaining how they think the is applied.
frankhardy12Dec 8, 2008
A myth is that with enough knowledge and technology we can manage planet Earth.. "Managing the planet" has a nice a ring to it.<a class="user" href="http://test-help.org/rica.htm">http://test-help.org/rica.htm</a>