youtube.com— Jobs make it clear that iPhone is not a new cell phone, it's a new iPod, and AppleTV is a new mac. Mark one up for American innovation. Would that the rest of the S&P 500 take that charge.
Jan 9, 2007View in Crawl 4
" nothing but a (Nintendoesque) gimmick"It might be a Nintendoesque gimmick but last time I checked Nintendo was killing Sony in the Console Wars and Apple's market share is skyrocketing as we speak. Now if you call that a Gimmick, then I agree with you.
Inaccurate.Just checked unlimited data plan for Blackjack. It's a $40 add-on called PDA Connect Unlimited. That's on top of a voice plan that starts at $40. Where are you guys getting the $65 number? If you want text messaging (SMS) with Cingular it's $5 for 200 a month, and $20 for 3000 messages a month. Nothing in between and no unlimited text messages plan. I easily go over 200/month so I had to get the 3000 messages a month plan.So, right now, I have a BlackBerry 8700 on a family plan with my girlfriend, with unlimited data and the 3000 texts a month. Phone cost $350 a couple days after Thanksgiving 2005, and I pay $45/month for phone (1400 minutes shared which comes to $90 split btwn us), $45/month for unlimited data and the $20 SMS plan. I'll be paying pretty much the same per month with only the data plan going down $5.And I don't think you need to buy wi-fi with your data plan. Especially living in a city where almost anywhere you can come across some kind of unprotected or free public wi-fi. (Mountain View, CA is going to love this thing with their free citywide wi-fi from Google, they won't even really need the data plan unless they travel).
My two year old Samsung phone has awesome voice dialing by a company called Voice Signal Technologies.Who wants to fumble around with a big candybar phone and have to look at the screen all the time to dial? Apple didn`t re-invent the phone...they made an overpriced niche device tied to a horrible company called Cingular er ATT ?Verizon has a phone coming out for less than $300 that shows real live TV and they have the best network and have EVDO REV. AFor $600 you can get a notebook computer and you don`t even have to sign up with Crapular ;)
Pretty much only once?The Apple II...It revolutionized the computer industry, more so than any other product Apple has ever released. At one point Apple had like 90% market share in the PC industry. The Apple //e...the most successful computer ever made. It was in production for over 10 years, and even today 24 years later it is still in use in thousands of schools all over the world. The Mac Plus...say what you will but the Macintosh once again revolutionized the computer industry, and especially with the Mac Plus became a popular and viable product, and there was literally no competition in the GUI and desktop publishing market throughout the 80s.The iMac...the original was one of the best selling computers ever, Mac or PC. If you go back to the sales results, even with iMacs of different colors classified as different computers, they still individually sold better than any other single computer at the time. The iPod...I don't even need to go into this as I assume you're referring to the iPod as their only success. Then there's their software, some of which simply has no equal in their respective market (Final Cut Pro) or is years ahead of the competition (Mac OS X). Not to say that Apple is infallible, they've had some colossal failures as well...The Apple III, the Lisa, the Mac 128k, the ridiculously expensive Mac II line (something in the order of $10,000 at one point), the Newton, the Pippin, the notoriously unreliable PowerBook 5300, the notoriously cheap and useless Performa line, the G4 Cube, etc.Bottom line, Apple has had many successes and many failures, just like every other company. Everything Steve Jobs s**ts does not turn to gold, and in fact he's responsible for many Apple's biggest failures and his closed architecture religion has only really worked -once- with the iPod, and -failed- pretty much every other time, and it just may again with the iPhone. But give credit where credit is due.
firemillen2Jan 10, 2007
Cingular data plans....$65 bucks a month for Samsung blackjack. So $600 bucks for the phone and $65 bucks a month for the next 2 years. - Who the f**k can afford this?<a class="user" href="https://business.cingular.com/cingular/packages/">https://business.cingular.com/cingular/packages/</a>
Closed AccountJan 10, 2007
" nothing but a (Nintendoesque) gimmick"It might be a Nintendoesque gimmick but last time I checked Nintendo was killing Sony in the Console Wars and Apple's market share is skyrocketing as we speak. Now if you call that a Gimmick, then I agree with you.
kernokernoJan 10, 2007
@ malavallaAre you mad because Microsoft gives you s**t?Now with the iPhone i see the zune is uglier ;)
vermifaxJan 10, 2007
iPhone for me.
danbedfordJan 10, 2007
Inaccurate.Just checked unlimited data plan for Blackjack. It's a $40 add-on called PDA Connect Unlimited. That's on top of a voice plan that starts at $40. Where are you guys getting the $65 number? If you want text messaging (SMS) with Cingular it's $5 for 200 a month, and $20 for 3000 messages a month. Nothing in between and no unlimited text messages plan. I easily go over 200/month so I had to get the 3000 messages a month plan.So, right now, I have a BlackBerry 8700 on a family plan with my girlfriend, with unlimited data and the 3000 texts a month. Phone cost $350 a couple days after Thanksgiving 2005, and I pay $45/month for phone (1400 minutes shared which comes to $90 split btwn us), $45/month for unlimited data and the $20 SMS plan. I'll be paying pretty much the same per month with only the data plan going down $5.And I don't think you need to buy wi-fi with your data plan. Especially living in a city where almost anywhere you can come across some kind of unprotected or free public wi-fi. (Mountain View, CA is going to love this thing with their free citywide wi-fi from Google, they won't even really need the data plan unless they travel).
pickersterJan 10, 2007
I hope the iPhone makes it big... but check this out... good read..<a class="user" href="http://www.bartdabek.com/rants/apple-iphone-7-killer-downfalls">http://www.bartdabek.com/rants/apple-iphone-7-killer-downfalls</a>
applesuxleoJan 10, 2007
My two year old Samsung phone has awesome voice dialing by a company called Voice Signal Technologies.Who wants to fumble around with a big candybar phone and have to look at the screen all the time to dial? Apple didn`t re-invent the phone...they made an overpriced niche device tied to a horrible company called Cingular er ATT ?Verizon has a phone coming out for less than $300 that shows real live TV and they have the best network and have EVDO REV. AFor $600 you can get a notebook computer and you don`t even have to sign up with Crapular ;)
acetracerJan 14, 2007
Pretty much only once?The Apple II...It revolutionized the computer industry, more so than any other product Apple has ever released. At one point Apple had like 90% market share in the PC industry. The Apple //e...the most successful computer ever made. It was in production for over 10 years, and even today 24 years later it is still in use in thousands of schools all over the world. The Mac Plus...say what you will but the Macintosh once again revolutionized the computer industry, and especially with the Mac Plus became a popular and viable product, and there was literally no competition in the GUI and desktop publishing market throughout the 80s.The iMac...the original was one of the best selling computers ever, Mac or PC. If you go back to the sales results, even with iMacs of different colors classified as different computers, they still individually sold better than any other single computer at the time. The iPod...I don't even need to go into this as I assume you're referring to the iPod as their only success. Then there's their software, some of which simply has no equal in their respective market (Final Cut Pro) or is years ahead of the competition (Mac OS X). Not to say that Apple is infallible, they've had some colossal failures as well...The Apple III, the Lisa, the Mac 128k, the ridiculously expensive Mac II line (something in the order of $10,000 at one point), the Newton, the Pippin, the notoriously unreliable PowerBook 5300, the notoriously cheap and useless Performa line, the G4 Cube, etc.Bottom line, Apple has had many successes and many failures, just like every other company. Everything Steve Jobs s**ts does not turn to gold, and in fact he's responsible for many Apple's biggest failures and his closed architecture religion has only really worked -once- with the iPod, and -failed- pretty much every other time, and it just may again with the iPhone. But give credit where credit is due.