My DV camcorder may be almost 3 yeas old, it still works beautifully and takes incredible SD video with its 3 CCDs. While it does have USB2 and it is technically capable of streaming from tape to computer via USB, it requires special drivers and capture software that will let me pick a source other than firewire. Unless panasonic's put out drivers and capture software for the mac when I wasn't paying attention, this means it'll never connect to the new macbook. I'm sure there are a lot of people who have perfectly good DV/Firewire camcorders who don't particularly want to choose between buying a new camcorder or buying a more expensive mac. They might just say "screw it" and buy a 'doze laptop with firewire for half the price of a Macbook.I think Apple's really losing touch with reality. When I bought my first ibook, they started at $999 and were within a hundred bucks or so of comparable windows laptops. It was the first time in many years that I'd been able to compare the two without having to justify the huge markup on Apple products. So I bought the ibook. But Apple's prices have gone UP since then while every other manufacturer has lowered prices. Now, at a time when every other manufacturer is dropping prices and adding features, Apple is raising prices and removing features. WTF?!? If you're going to charge a premium price, you'd damn well better provide premium features.
With a vendor who dropped firewire either they want to sell bulkier pro model or they try to be nice to Intel friends.IBM and Toshiba were only competitors to Apple in high end. Now only Toshiba left but Lenovo keeps the tradition. Both Toshiba and Lenovo have way higher end and way more expensive offerings compared to Apple. They also happen to ship cheap business computers so what? It is Apple's issue not having sub 700 offering, not theirs.
@willynillyYou hit it on the head, my friend.I can't tell you how many times i've facepalmed this week when people tell me "yeah, but USB2 is 480mbps!!"
@ilgaz RE: " BTW in terms of industry Firewire is a really established and way more vendor neutral than Intel USB standard. Its actual name is IEEE1394. Intel hates the standard which still shows USB2 as a joke so they never joined the board.Interestingly, Apple's Firewire flip flops started right after Intel deal. What a co-incidence really... "Conspiracy or chance?
jtownOct 17, 2008
My DV camcorder may be almost 3 yeas old, it still works beautifully and takes incredible SD video with its 3 CCDs. While it does have USB2 and it is technically capable of streaming from tape to computer via USB, it requires special drivers and capture software that will let me pick a source other than firewire. Unless panasonic's put out drivers and capture software for the mac when I wasn't paying attention, this means it'll never connect to the new macbook. I'm sure there are a lot of people who have perfectly good DV/Firewire camcorders who don't particularly want to choose between buying a new camcorder or buying a more expensive mac. They might just say "screw it" and buy a 'doze laptop with firewire for half the price of a Macbook.I think Apple's really losing touch with reality. When I bought my first ibook, they started at $999 and were within a hundred bucks or so of comparable windows laptops. It was the first time in many years that I'd been able to compare the two without having to justify the huge markup on Apple products. So I bought the ibook. But Apple's prices have gone UP since then while every other manufacturer has lowered prices. Now, at a time when every other manufacturer is dropping prices and adding features, Apple is raising prices and removing features. WTF?!? If you're going to charge a premium price, you'd damn well better provide premium features.
Closed AccountOct 18, 2008
heard of photoshop?
ilgazOct 18, 2008
With a vendor who dropped firewire either they want to sell bulkier pro model or they try to be nice to Intel friends.IBM and Toshiba were only competitors to Apple in high end. Now only Toshiba left but Lenovo keeps the tradition. Both Toshiba and Lenovo have way higher end and way more expensive offerings compared to Apple. They also happen to ship cheap business computers so what? It is Apple's issue not having sub 700 offering, not theirs.
exslashdotterOct 20, 2008
@willynillyYou hit it on the head, my friend.I can't tell you how many times i've facepalmed this week when people tell me "yeah, but USB2 is 480mbps!!"
mrbitchOct 23, 2008
@ilgaz RE: " BTW in terms of industry Firewire is a really established and way more vendor neutral than Intel USB standard. Its actual name is IEEE1394. Intel hates the standard which still shows USB2 as a joke so they never joined the board.Interestingly, Apple's Firewire flip flops started right after Intel deal. What a co-incidence really... "Conspiracy or chance?
electrifriedOct 25, 2008
Pffft USB is SO much slower than firewire - especially with video editing when youre talking about a few gigs of data.