arstechnica.com — From the article: "It's starting to get frustrating to cover Sony. (snip) The Emmy thing was okay?we all make mistakes, and perhaps Sony just jumped to a few conclusions. But the issue of Motorstorm's resolution is much thicker, and smacks of negligence."
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alx242Jan 12, 2007
@twestermSeeing as you can't spell Blu-ray you probably don't know much either.
thund3rstruckJan 12, 2007
Who gives a s**t about the launch? You can't compare the XBOX360 launch to the PS3 launch as the 360 launched by itself with no competition. There was soooo much bad press and unrelenting articles about how gamers were waiting for the other consoles to make a decision. The X360 exploded this holiday season since there were some fantastic games released and people saw exactly what the PS3 was offering (an extremely high price for no visible difference compared to the competition). PS3 is not going to be able to make up lost ground easily since there is real stiff competition now, where the 360 was all alone for a year to tweak and improve it's offering.
alx242Jan 13, 2007
@grumpyrain:I'm not saying the rootkit was not a big mistake but see it from a different point of view. They obviously wanted to secure the sales of their cd and stop the piracy of them. Someone gave the stupid go ahead with the kind of insecure program. They posted a uninstaller which posed an even higher security risk, I guess they believed they could use a different measure of securing their cds being sold. Finally they retreated and gave the public a complete uninstaller (yes also the Windows update removed this software but an uninstaller was provided as well <a class="user" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_Music_Entertainment).">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_Music_Entertainment).</a>Now I do call this a bad company move but also a bold and understandable move. They only wanted to secure their product after all but did it in a very bad way.Now they have also provided customer with new cds or let them have their cash refunded. To me this is enough and I doubt these rootkits where ever used in any evil way but still allowing these kind of security breaches is horrendous. But they did pay their dues and are settling the thing in court. Also please note the difference in the company Sony BMG and SCEI, Sony is a multi million dollar national company after all. We don't blame the screw up of the Office team on the Windows team after all (if you want to compare companies).
alx242Jan 13, 2007
Maybe we should keep this somewhat smaller but anyways....:P "So the ends justifies the means?"Definitely not, as I said bad move...bold and bad and understandable (from a "stop piracy" point of view). Good link you provided also."So let me get this straight? In order to prevent people from pirating my software, I should be able to silently install arbitrary copy protection software onto peoples computers, apologise offer a recall and provide new CDs without the protection?"As I said and will keep on saying...bad, very bad move. It was stupid and bad, we have sorted this out, I guess? "Don't get me wrong, I do not have pirated mp3s or software on my PCs. I understand their desire to protect their income, but that does not justify it enough to make this move 'understandable'."It is ONLY understandable from the point of view that a bad program tried to prevent piracy of cds. Very much like the anti piracy systems that have been implemented into games, office suits etc. However when dealing with an industry standard like the cd has become you of course have to think differently as you will not be doing any software install per-say. I still call it stupid since I believe users should be trusted and has always hated the ways companies went out of line to protect their products sometimes. "Right, because I can't imagine malware authors being interested in something that hides files from virus scanners.<a class="user" href="http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2005-111015-0804-99&tabid=2">http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2005-111015-0804-99&tabid=2</a>"I only meant that I hadn't heard of any reports that this has been done. I never meant that it couldn't been done, of course. But seeing as I'm a Linux user I don't need to stay much in touch with the Windows world of mal-ware, spy-ware, trojans and whatever...So yeah I haven't really stayed in touch with this part of the whole fiasco."No but it would be fair to blame Microsoft in either case."I agree, but I still believe they have learned from this whole disaster and will not hold this against them as I try to see it from both sides how it was carried out. I guess we agree on many levels only I will not hold the root-kit fiasco as something bad to what happens in the future, more as something that someone should have learned from (as I believe they have by looking on the refunding, court settlement, final uninstaller etc...) and I definitely will not connect it to anything related to the PS3 as I don't see that connection.