thenewspaper.com— Man having a diabetic attack faces DUI charges even though he had no alcohol in his system. Police in Ozark, Alabama on Tuesday used a taser on a sober man who was having a diabetic seizure.
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Pay them more than an average of $34,000 a year after six years of service, this with a four-year degree, post graduate academy training, on the job training, and the chance to come home from work with more holes than you started with, and it wouldn't be a low-end labor sector.
If you could prove that the Medicalert bracelet had been removed and hidden in the prisoner's car by the arresting officer(s), you'd have a good case for willful manslaughter (since it's common knowledge that an untreated diabetic in shock may die). Tough to prove, and you'd expect the police officers involved to perjure themselves shamelessly. But you could keep a video recorder set up in your vehicle, and make a point of switching it on the instant you ever get pulled over. Let the cops know that it's wireless, and all his actions are being uploaded to a remote server; that if you die of diabetic coma, your will instructs your attorney to review that record, and pursue criminal and civil charges against the filthy pig who caused your death.It's nearly impossible to get uniformed criminals prosecuted (welcome to Amerexico!) but a civil suit, or the threat of a seven-figure suit and the accompanying public embarrassment, MIGHT serve to jerk the pig's leash enough so that he acts human, during the traffic stop.
If you tell the officers that you're recording, they'll just pass on to the next guy that doesn't have a camera. Don't tell them. Don't let them know. That way, when they do something illegal, which is almost a guarantee, you have evidence, and can stop them before they attack someone else.
Hire half as many and pay them twice as much. Sounds good to me. Seems like a lot of the problems are just due to an excessive number of cops running around with nothing better to do.
Well actually I'm a marketing consultant, but since when did "cop" become something you could accuse someone of outside of organized crime? You want to check me for a wire, Pauly? You break my heart, you know I've been like a brother to you...There are unfortunate aspects to this story, but they're not near worth the hyperventilation and disrespect that get thrown around here on cop threads. Most of these "fascist pig" posters on Digg really have no clue what cops are up against on a daily basis. Remember, they're the ones who are not allowed to run away if things get tough. If faced with a crackhead waving a gun around, 90% of these posters would find a way to both crap their pants and run as fast as they can. Cops follow a protocol, one that puts them in danger, that even says "if you're a crackhead waving a gun, by all rights you should be shot by a cop, but we spent extra taxpayer money on tasers so that you might be alive tomorrow." But the real fun part for a cop is when, after you've run all the way home, gotten cleaned up, and know that the cops have probably taken care of the crackhead with a gun in one way or another, you log on to digg and post things about the Police State and how the taser is inhumane and why can't they just wrestle the gun away from the guy. Always nice to literally put your life on the line for people and get nothing back.This guy shouldn't have been arrested, and even though it was probably a proper application of the protocol, that doesn't mean there shouldn't be apologies involved. But he did end this episode without a scratch, which is more than can be said for the six cops *every month* that have been shot and killed in 2007. Haven't seen that story on Digg. Sorry, did that feel like a lecture? That's the problem with us marketing consultants -- we're real fascist pigs.
Another reason to have your door locked and window up. I have had pleasant and unpleasant contacts with the police.Most of them were when I was younger and had hair to grow long LOL. I like the police here where I live because the chief lives across the street. He's a good guy with a bunch of kids who are well behaved. The sheriff here is better than the last one but has plenty of room for improvement. I knew most of the deputies before they were out of high school from watching the sports or from being parents of kids in sports. They have a taser but I never see any of them with it. I seriously doubt that the police or sheriff department here would ever be involved in an incident like this. It is sad that this type of thing is becoming more common and I hope this story will convince more police to be aware of medical conditions and learn the difference between a diabetic with a problem or a drunk. According to the story the first time the police saw the man his vehicle was not in motion and had been safely parked off of the roadway. I fail to see how he could be driving under the influence if he was not driving.
doglippNov 10, 2007
they are still going to cuff you and that is about the time i freak out; end result for me the same plus mild electrocution.
humptydankNov 10, 2007
I see what you did there.
humptydankNov 10, 2007
Pay them more than an average of $34,000 a year after six years of service, this with a four-year degree, post graduate academy training, on the job training, and the chance to come home from work with more holes than you started with, and it wouldn't be a low-end labor sector.
thecatcantalkNov 10, 2007
If you could prove that the Medicalert bracelet had been removed and hidden in the prisoner's car by the arresting officer(s), you'd have a good case for willful manslaughter (since it's common knowledge that an untreated diabetic in shock may die). Tough to prove, and you'd expect the police officers involved to perjure themselves shamelessly. But you could keep a video recorder set up in your vehicle, and make a point of switching it on the instant you ever get pulled over. Let the cops know that it's wireless, and all his actions are being uploaded to a remote server; that if you die of diabetic coma, your will instructs your attorney to review that record, and pursue criminal and civil charges against the filthy pig who caused your death.It's nearly impossible to get uniformed criminals prosecuted (welcome to Amerexico!) but a civil suit, or the threat of a seven-figure suit and the accompanying public embarrassment, MIGHT serve to jerk the pig's leash enough so that he acts human, during the traffic stop.
wshsNov 10, 2007
If you tell the officers that you're recording, they'll just pass on to the next guy that doesn't have a camera. Don't tell them. Don't let them know. That way, when they do something illegal, which is almost a guarantee, you have evidence, and can stop them before they attack someone else.
Closed AccountNov 11, 2007
Hire half as many and pay them twice as much. Sounds good to me. Seems like a lot of the problems are just due to an excessive number of cops running around with nothing better to do.
humptydankNov 11, 2007
Well actually I'm a marketing consultant, but since when did "cop" become something you could accuse someone of outside of organized crime? You want to check me for a wire, Pauly? You break my heart, you know I've been like a brother to you...There are unfortunate aspects to this story, but they're not near worth the hyperventilation and disrespect that get thrown around here on cop threads. Most of these "fascist pig" posters on Digg really have no clue what cops are up against on a daily basis. Remember, they're the ones who are not allowed to run away if things get tough. If faced with a crackhead waving a gun around, 90% of these posters would find a way to both crap their pants and run as fast as they can. Cops follow a protocol, one that puts them in danger, that even says "if you're a crackhead waving a gun, by all rights you should be shot by a cop, but we spent extra taxpayer money on tasers so that you might be alive tomorrow." But the real fun part for a cop is when, after you've run all the way home, gotten cleaned up, and know that the cops have probably taken care of the crackhead with a gun in one way or another, you log on to digg and post things about the Police State and how the taser is inhumane and why can't they just wrestle the gun away from the guy. Always nice to literally put your life on the line for people and get nothing back.This guy shouldn't have been arrested, and even though it was probably a proper application of the protocol, that doesn't mean there shouldn't be apologies involved. But he did end this episode without a scratch, which is more than can be said for the six cops *every month* that have been shot and killed in 2007. Haven't seen that story on Digg. Sorry, did that feel like a lecture? That's the problem with us marketing consultants -- we're real fascist pigs.
Closed AccountNov 17, 2007
Another reason to have your door locked and window up. I have had pleasant and unpleasant contacts with the police.Most of them were when I was younger and had hair to grow long LOL. I like the police here where I live because the chief lives across the street. He's a good guy with a bunch of kids who are well behaved. The sheriff here is better than the last one but has plenty of room for improvement. I knew most of the deputies before they were out of high school from watching the sports or from being parents of kids in sports. They have a taser but I never see any of them with it. I seriously doubt that the police or sheriff department here would ever be involved in an incident like this. It is sad that this type of thing is becoming more common and I hope this story will convince more police to be aware of medical conditions and learn the difference between a diabetic with a problem or a drunk. According to the story the first time the police saw the man his vehicle was not in motion and had been safely parked off of the roadway. I fail to see how he could be driving under the influence if he was not driving.
randegFeb 22, 2008
Hello,It is easy to think that a person is drunk when in reality he is having a hypoglycemic attack because the symptoms are similar. That is why it is good to wear a diabetes bracelet or some other form of medical ID to alert people that one needs help.Randeg<a class="user" href="http://www.free-symptoms-of-diabetes-alert.com">http://www.free-symptoms-of-diabetes-alert.com</a> .