today.reuters.com— Four September 11 charities will receive 10 percent of box office receipts for the first five days of director Oliver Stone's new movie "World Trade Center, the charities said on Wednesday.
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One more example of our NEW WORLD ORDER people almost as bad as the tragedy itself is to make money off it it should show everyone where are world is heading
Fahrenheit 911 was about the government's lack of action regarding the events that happened on 9-11. It was not a dramatization of events by a big name movie director starring Nick Cage, it was there to educate.
They should not be making a movie about 9/11 for profit. If they want to make one, that is good, so that people remember the terrible things that happened. If they want to charge people to see it in a theater, that's also fine. However, they should donate 100% of the proceeds to the victim's families. Or, they could donate it to the U.S. military to help defray the cost of missiles used to kill terrorists.
Who is to say if the money for this movie that is given to the charities will benefit victim's families any more than all the other money and goods that were not properly allocated after 9/11? I know I will get alot of hate responses but I was turned off by the way it seemed like some spouses and famillies were trying to get as much money as possible out of this tragedy. Some were telling people not to donate because it would limit the amount of money they were getting from the government. Reading the stats on how much has been paid makes me wonder how much more is really needed. WASHINGTON, D.C. - The September 11th Victim Compensation Fund has paid out more than $2.6 billion to date, the Special Master for the fund, Kenneth Feinberg, announced today. Under the provisions of the congressionally-created fund, eligibility is limited to those victims (or the family members of deceased victims) who were present at the sites of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and who were killed or physically injured.The Fund, enacted by Congress and signed into law by President Bush on September 24, 2001, received 7,371 claims by the December 22, 2003 deadline. Of the total claims, 2,969 were received from families of those killed.The average amount of compensation paid to date to the families of deceased victims is $1.8 million. Individual death compensation amounts have ranged from $250,000 to $7 million. Those physically injured as a result of the attacks have received Fund compensation ranging from $500 to $7.9 million.Whenever someone dies unexpectedly it is a tragedy. Whether it be in a car accident or an act of terrorism. Most victim's families are not this well compensated.
I'm sure that the actors and creatives that participated in this movie wanted to contribute their "vision" and talents to a movie that many will feel touched by (and of course make some big cash). However, the biggest problem is that this Hollywood movie (cliche or not) is just TOO SOON. Take for example the movie "Titanic". Quite tacky compared to the real tragedy....Leo, "King of the World" and James Cameron? I'm sure most of the people that remembered the tragedy has past away so unfortunately our generation can accept this movie and think of it from a romance point of few. Even "Pearl Harbor" - it is inevitable that Hollywood will take a national tragedy and exploit it. We are all guilty of not giving enough but to make profit, that's just not right. The last time I was where the World Trade Center was, there were many street vendors trying to sell calendars, frames of the building and souvenirs proving that as humans, someone will always try to make buck or two out of it.We have the choice to see it or not - if you do, I don't think you are insensitive but based on all the discussions regarding this film, I don't think America is ready. I know I'm not. NOT NOW.
I'd like to comment on two things. First, a lot of people seem to be upset that only 10% of the proceeds from opening weekend will be donated to the charities. It could be argued that 10% of anything is not worth it. However, films are tricky. It's a little known fact that the majority of movies actually generate more of a loss for the studios than a profit. As crazy as it sounds, it is true. Studios lose more money on films than they make from them, and it's very rare that they make a decent profit. Actors are a different story. Granted, films generate more income from DVD rentals and sales, but this is a very long and tedious process that accumulates over years. The charities benefitting from the release of WTC are in immediate need of the donations -(for the children of fallen policemen/firemen, the funding of the memorial, etc.). Secondly, I'd like to address the complaint from several people on here about this film being released "too soon." I watched an interview with the man who is portrayed by Nicolas Cage. He said that this film is more about heroism, generosity, and the compassion of the human spirit in times of suffering than anything else. He spoke about how he and the other gentleman represented suffered under the rubble, and accepted that they were going to die. They had no choice. However, as he went on to say, the men who rescued them, who dug through all of that debris, who took the chance of being killed in order to save those who were trapped, did have a choice. They did not have to risk their lives that day, but they did. He said that the heroism and determination that those men and women showed is what saved his life, and to say that it is "too soon" to tell their story, would be a shame. I agree with him. If the families of the victims of that day embrace this film, believe that it honored those who fell, and do not label it as coming "too soon", then it is not too soon for us either. We suffered as a nation, but we did not grieve the way that they did...and still do.
I saw this movie... I was one of the emergency workers down there after the towers fell... unless you were there or had friends / family that perished that day... I am sorry ... you really have NO idea (or would want to know for that matter) of what actually happened. This movie is an absolute insult to everyone that was murdered that day, rescue relief workers, and most of all ... THE FAMILIES!! Not only is it corny as hell.. it doesn't even exceed to do what the movie was intended for.. " Lets make a movie about 911.. but lets not make it about 911.. lets do it in honor of heroism, strength and honor!?-- Go see Gladiator then!! .. at least Russell Crowe was convincing and you felt something at the end. Do I really need Oliver Stone... to tell me what had happened that day? Does he understand that peoples families did not come home to them after waiting by the phone so desperately just to see if someone had found their loved ones. Does he know how that feels... apparently not -if he did - he would not have made this movie. Opening week contributing to charities?... that is so nice of him. Dvd's I am sure will do fine in profits as well. I am a native New Yorker.. this movie was made for people in the outskirts of boomtown that are obsessed with the greatest tragedy that hit America that day. You don't need to make this movie... plain and simple-that's it. Is this movie too soon?? You bet your ass .. 5 years later -hey lets depict the Port Authority policemen that were trapped under the rubble and call it mmmmmm..I don't know... WORLD TRADE CENTER! They could have been trapped coal miners for all we know watching this movie. And the dialouge with the chessey New York accents ( "hey Sarge?... Yeah ?.. Don't go to sleep........ OK.... Did you ever see GI Jane?.... NO... Pain is your friend ... ?!?!) ....-it was hard to watch because it was just soo fake. Karnes - the ex-marine.... are you kidding me! ( should I laugh at this character or feel warm and fuzzy inside) ... Nicolas Cage??.. and the whole cast for that matter... what the f**k are you thinking. Wrong depiction and feeling of what happened that day, (Maybe in your mind). Hey Oliver- you really do not know what the f**k happened here. If you tried to shed some light to what happened that day with the 2 Port Authority police officers... I give you a "C-" for trying. Otherwise you should not have tried to capture a 911 tragedy by focusing on 2 survivors that made it out. Go back to California - rewrite Alexander and all of your odd goofball movies and retire in the Hollywood sunset.
mlock2kJul 27, 2006
One more example of our NEW WORLD ORDER people almost as bad as the tragedy itself is to make money off it it should show everyone where are world is heading
mightysquidJul 27, 2006
I still say this is way too soon. I was there. I don't understand why this is ok. It's not. No matter who get's the money.
weeklygeekJul 27, 2006
Fahrenheit 911 was about the government's lack of action regarding the events that happened on 9-11. It was not a dramatization of events by a big name movie director starring Nick Cage, it was there to educate.
cvrefugeeJul 28, 2006
Oliver Stone is an ass...case closed.
cybersamuraiJul 28, 2006
They should not be making a movie about 9/11 for profit. If they want to make one, that is good, so that people remember the terrible things that happened. If they want to charge people to see it in a theater, that's also fine. However, they should donate 100% of the proceeds to the victim's families. Or, they could donate it to the U.S. military to help defray the cost of missiles used to kill terrorists.
fotograffitiAug 6, 2006
Who is to say if the money for this movie that is given to the charities will benefit victim's families any more than all the other money and goods that were not properly allocated after 9/11? I know I will get alot of hate responses but I was turned off by the way it seemed like some spouses and famillies were trying to get as much money as possible out of this tragedy. Some were telling people not to donate because it would limit the amount of money they were getting from the government. Reading the stats on how much has been paid makes me wonder how much more is really needed. WASHINGTON, D.C. - The September 11th Victim Compensation Fund has paid out more than $2.6 billion to date, the Special Master for the fund, Kenneth Feinberg, announced today. Under the provisions of the congressionally-created fund, eligibility is limited to those victims (or the family members of deceased victims) who were present at the sites of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and who were killed or physically injured.The Fund, enacted by Congress and signed into law by President Bush on September 24, 2001, received 7,371 claims by the December 22, 2003 deadline. Of the total claims, 2,969 were received from families of those killed.The average amount of compensation paid to date to the families of deceased victims is $1.8 million. Individual death compensation amounts have ranged from $250,000 to $7 million. Those physically injured as a result of the attacks have received Fund compensation ranging from $500 to $7.9 million.Whenever someone dies unexpectedly it is a tragedy. Whether it be in a car accident or an act of terrorism. Most victim's families are not this well compensated.
fraisefieldsAug 6, 2006
I'm sure that the actors and creatives that participated in this movie wanted to contribute their "vision" and talents to a movie that many will feel touched by (and of course make some big cash). However, the biggest problem is that this Hollywood movie (cliche or not) is just TOO SOON. Take for example the movie "Titanic". Quite tacky compared to the real tragedy....Leo, "King of the World" and James Cameron? I'm sure most of the people that remembered the tragedy has past away so unfortunately our generation can accept this movie and think of it from a romance point of few. Even "Pearl Harbor" - it is inevitable that Hollywood will take a national tragedy and exploit it. We are all guilty of not giving enough but to make profit, that's just not right. The last time I was where the World Trade Center was, there were many street vendors trying to sell calendars, frames of the building and souvenirs proving that as humans, someone will always try to make buck or two out of it.We have the choice to see it or not - if you do, I don't think you are insensitive but based on all the discussions regarding this film, I don't think America is ready. I know I'm not. NOT NOW.
sashkabAug 8, 2006
I read fraiserfields and agree 100%, it actully is what I was going to say give or take a few words.
stacymaeAug 10, 2006
I'd like to comment on two things. First, a lot of people seem to be upset that only 10% of the proceeds from opening weekend will be donated to the charities. It could be argued that 10% of anything is not worth it. However, films are tricky. It's a little known fact that the majority of movies actually generate more of a loss for the studios than a profit. As crazy as it sounds, it is true. Studios lose more money on films than they make from them, and it's very rare that they make a decent profit. Actors are a different story. Granted, films generate more income from DVD rentals and sales, but this is a very long and tedious process that accumulates over years. The charities benefitting from the release of WTC are in immediate need of the donations -(for the children of fallen policemen/firemen, the funding of the memorial, etc.). Secondly, I'd like to address the complaint from several people on here about this film being released "too soon." I watched an interview with the man who is portrayed by Nicolas Cage. He said that this film is more about heroism, generosity, and the compassion of the human spirit in times of suffering than anything else. He spoke about how he and the other gentleman represented suffered under the rubble, and accepted that they were going to die. They had no choice. However, as he went on to say, the men who rescued them, who dug through all of that debris, who took the chance of being killed in order to save those who were trapped, did have a choice. They did not have to risk their lives that day, but they did. He said that the heroism and determination that those men and women showed is what saved his life, and to say that it is "too soon" to tell their story, would be a shame. I agree with him. If the families of the victims of that day embrace this film, believe that it honored those who fell, and do not label it as coming "too soon", then it is not too soon for us either. We suffered as a nation, but we did not grieve the way that they did...and still do.
cj16Aug 24, 2006
I saw this movie... I was one of the emergency workers down there after the towers fell... unless you were there or had friends / family that perished that day... I am sorry ... you really have NO idea (or would want to know for that matter) of what actually happened. This movie is an absolute insult to everyone that was murdered that day, rescue relief workers, and most of all ... THE FAMILIES!! Not only is it corny as hell.. it doesn't even exceed to do what the movie was intended for.. " Lets make a movie about 911.. but lets not make it about 911.. lets do it in honor of heroism, strength and honor!?-- Go see Gladiator then!! .. at least Russell Crowe was convincing and you felt something at the end. Do I really need Oliver Stone... to tell me what had happened that day? Does he understand that peoples families did not come home to them after waiting by the phone so desperately just to see if someone had found their loved ones. Does he know how that feels... apparently not -if he did - he would not have made this movie. Opening week contributing to charities?... that is so nice of him. Dvd's I am sure will do fine in profits as well. I am a native New Yorker.. this movie was made for people in the outskirts of boomtown that are obsessed with the greatest tragedy that hit America that day. You don't need to make this movie... plain and simple-that's it. Is this movie too soon?? You bet your ass .. 5 years later -hey lets depict the Port Authority policemen that were trapped under the rubble and call it mmmmmm..I don't know... WORLD TRADE CENTER! They could have been trapped coal miners for all we know watching this movie. And the dialouge with the chessey New York accents ( "hey Sarge?... Yeah ?.. Don't go to sleep........ OK.... Did you ever see GI Jane?.... NO... Pain is your friend ... ?!?!) ....-it was hard to watch because it was just soo fake. Karnes - the ex-marine.... are you kidding me! ( should I laugh at this character or feel warm and fuzzy inside) ... Nicolas Cage??.. and the whole cast for that matter... what the f**k are you thinking. Wrong depiction and feeling of what happened that day, (Maybe in your mind). Hey Oliver- you really do not know what the f**k happened here. If you tried to shed some light to what happened that day with the 2 Port Authority police officers... I give you a "C-" for trying. Otherwise you should not have tried to capture a 911 tragedy by focusing on 2 survivors that made it out. Go back to California - rewrite Alexander and all of your odd goofball movies and retire in the Hollywood sunset.