money.cnn.com — VMware's CEO Diane Greene told me last week that her company's existing x86 desktop product is already being used by some to run Mac OS on computers from Dell (Charts), Hewlett-Packard (Charts) and others, though this is not intentional on VMware's part.
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asianneJan 22, 2007Submitter
From what I understood in the article, the software can already run Mac OS on a PC but the ability was not intentional - more of an accident (laugh...) - right now they are waiting on Steve Jobs to give thumbs up and let it ride. What I do not understand, is wouldn't it be just as possible to run Mac OS as the resident OS on a PC without VM Ware or Parallels - hopefully someone out in hackspace can answer that for me.Mac OS isn't bloat ware and Windows XP on parallels runs without lag so I'm sure it'll be just as good vice-versa. (one can hope)
Closed AccountJan 23, 2007
Hi, Welcome to last year.
rzzaJan 23, 2007
The Macalope has some interesting comments on this article: <a class="user" href="http://www.macalope.com/?p=149">http://www.macalope.com/?p=149</a>
Closed AccountJan 23, 2007
very misleading title. I thought it was going to show us how to do it, instead its just a lame PR stint on cnn. dugg down.
colincornabyJan 23, 2007
"why does Apple have to let this happen? There's no way they can stop it."Release a patch that explicitly blocks Parallels' virtual BIOS.
Closed AccountJan 23, 2007
We need a generic audio driver for VMware. Then I would have no problems. Please, someone smart out there, write an audio driver.
Closed AccountJan 24, 2007
i used osx in vmware, but its soooo slowww, even with 2gb of ram, and a 10k raptor HD, its just slow
rapishorridJan 24, 2007
Yeah I'm pretty sure the running OSX on a PC thing happened a whiiiiile ago...
dpcampJan 25, 2007
<a class="user" href="http://forum.insanelymac.com">http://forum.insanelymac.com</a>
Closed AccountMar 5, 2007
BADTZ -um 1 yes you CAN build a better machine with any case and fancy coolant system.... make it shinier with just as good or better components then a MAC. With a screwless design... but I actually hate the weird lever or whatever some case makers have. Give me simple thumb screws.And yeah it would be fun to have OSX on my PC but I really dont see much use in it.The reason there us such a demand for XP on MACs is that you simply cannot run as many programs on a MAC that you can't on a PC. I mean there will be those simple apps that Apple makes, but you can find the equivalent on PCs.The only reason I'd do it, would be to piss off the control freak Jobs at Apple. Oh and why not bootleg OSX while we're at it... make him REAL happy ;-) .
grandgizmoFeb 4, 2008
Man, that has to be the most humorous comment I think I've seen lately! NATIVE OS X INSTALLED IN AN EMULATOR = OS X INSTALLED NATIVELY! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Dude, if that were true, I'd be playing high end games under Parallels with Windows XP, and the PC users who emulate OS X would be running all their OS X software just as good as I do on my Macbook Pro. Granted, I have 4 gigabytes, and XP runs great. but, real hardware versus virtualized is a world apart. You just are dreaming, right? :)
grandgizmoFeb 4, 2008
BAHAHAHAHAH Who even wants a PC Windblows! HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The laughing stock!
grandgizmoFeb 4, 2008
BAHAHAHAHAHA! Who ever wants a PC WINDBLOWS!? HAHAHAHHA! All that hardware rigged up to be so powerful: colors you can't see with the human eye, resolutions that you can't differentiate between 1680 and 1920 resolutions, sounds you can't hear. I think I'll just stick with my Macbook Pro INtel Core 2 Duo at 1680 with the 256 megs of Geforce video ram. Apple's got style, taste, uniqueness beyond measure. I run XP and look at their version of iTunes, and it makes me want to shut down and go back to OS X. I got XP on my system, and I never even use it for much. Apple software is just made better and more solid. Ya'll can go ahead and dodge all those missing .dll files, chase down those drivers and format reinstall... I'll just stick with the winners. I've been in computing since the Atari 600XL and 16K of RAM. In my professional opinion, there's no better machine running a better OS than OS X on a Macintosh platform. It just works! If I want to get complicated and run PC games, I'll just load up Boot Camp and run any PC game there is. And, I think you boys heard. Macintosh runs Vista faster than a PC. Trust me. PC WORLD wouldn't have admitted that fact if they could somehow get around it. Come on! Why all you fellows got to give into the Microsoft propaganda. 95% of the world is PC. Might as well call Bill Gates the anti-christ incarnate.
grandgizmoFeb 4, 2008
Problem is you can't run OS X native on a PC platform. It just won't run as good as on a Mac system. Ah, I've heard of them rigging it up and playing god, but in the end, it's just not feasible. OS X is simply far superior than Windblows. I'm sorry to say it, but it's true. All that crap about Windblows being more secure makes me laugh! Never seen a Mac user infected with a trojan virus, and I sure don't have any problems with spyware or adware. Plain and simple, I'm not putting down you Windblows users, but I'm putting down the people who brainwashed all of you. I feel sorry for you. I really do. You've been had! You've been taken for a ride by the most powerful man in the world. You've been marked by the beast! Ever seen a Microsoft user put the Microsoft logo on their website to support their choice in OS? NOPE! But, you sure will see an apple on my website! I'm proud! Real proud to say I'm walking down the narrow path and not the broad that leads to destruction. One day, they get beyond that 5GHZ barrier, and then Mac's gonna run every OS on one system flawlessly and better than any other platform in any home in the world. Of course, true emulations occurs at 5GHZ. So, we'll see. We'll see how that Windows Seven coming out in - what? - 2010 looks. Got to see Windblows Seven. Sounds like God's perfect number, but we all know it's not gonna be very godly. Worst part of the apple, Eve already took a bite out of. Apple users got the sweetest part left, and it's on the back of my Macbook Pro.
vtnerdSep 19, 2008
Anti-trust lawsuit I imagine. Forcing people to buy their hardware to run their software kind of thing.If Microsoft said tomorrow that if you wanted to keep using Windows you had to go buy a Dell you can bet they'd be in legal trouble.
vtnerdSep 19, 2008
No, you build it yourself and it costs less and works better.
windows10Jan 24, 2009
I guess where I'm lost is with the question, do most MACs have the ability to be upgraded and if so can it be done by the owner or does it need to be done by Apple? I see parts for MAC out there and have seen the boards for MAC which do look opposite the PC and cost 4 times the price, probably because of the market not being as large, but notice on a lot of the new ones, same with new Windows PCs and laptops, that they look quite difficult to do anything to open them up or change anything out. PC laptops and desktops may have screws and wires visible but this is because you can unscrew them and plug new things in usually. I really do like the idea of boot camp although I've never tried it myself, but would be highly impressed if a MAC were to be able to outdo a new PC build in Windows Vista with say an i7 quad core processor with 6 tripple channel ddr3 chips and an SLI video configuration. Another comment that was made earlier is also a good one... is Final Cut Pro REALLY useable on a PC. I've seen things about the audio driver issues but are there any other issues with the emulation or virtuallization techniques that effect the software.