rawstory.com — Holding a whiteboard and yelling about the cost of health care reform, former Senior Bush adviser Karl Rove melted down on ABC's This Week Sunday. Rove faced off against David Plouffe, one of President Barack Obama's senior advisers.Rove is a paid contributor for Fox News where he rarely receives the kind of debate offered by Plouffe.
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makeitloudMar 22, 2010
Actually it is true, which is plain from the video, but when the moderator finally got Rove to shut up, Plouffe did a piss-poor job of making his point and countering Rove's bulls**t arguments.
insaneredneckMar 23, 2010
HEY THERE Charlotte_Web, How's the tea bagging going? You should wipe your chin,you got a little Rove juice dripping there.
insaneredneckMar 23, 2010
He would enjoy that too much,put him in a woman's prison where they can pants him in the yard everyday and laugh at his tiny little pecker.
Closed AccountMar 23, 2010
I hate people that try to win arguments by simply interrupting those who have a different opinion every time they try to speak. That is what Karl Rove is doing here and that is what I see often take place on Fox News.
atomheartmotherMar 23, 2010
Thanks ultimis, for answering my 2nd question.
murrdpirateMar 23, 2010
He only gave like 3 specific reasons on why the bill doesn't really create a surplus...I wouldn't think that would be too hard to disprove. I'm not saying you have to, but it's pretty stupid to rule out an easily testable claim for no reason.
tabionMar 23, 2010
Rove needs to shut up, you can't win by over-talking someone.
stenkiwMar 23, 2010
I would have believed him if he was using an iPad.Edit: Well, probably not.
wefarrellMar 23, 2010
"your concern is politically motivated."No s**t Sherlock.
theyarMar 23, 2010
...on a vessel who's mission had been accomplished. And it still has absolutely nothing to do with what they were discussing, it was just a distraction and a cheap-shot.
dontblnkMar 23, 2010
"Really? Even if it means they can get away with whatever they want? Drop people when they become to high of a risk. Drop people because of pre existing conditions. Forcing people to go to the ER and the last minute instead of going early and saving everyone money."Yes really. In a truly free market a company that does business like that will not have too many customers. Another enterprising person will start a company that does not do these things...competition. Competition makes markets efficient.Regulation is ok when it's limited, but I'm talking about preventing monopolies and collusion between competitors. Not dictating prices of private companies. eg. America is not truly free if the government can tell me how much I can charge for a loaf of bread. Greece is a perfect example of a big government scenario (gov't was 40% of GDP). If you want that then great, It didn't turn out too well for them. Ultimately this country was founded because of those escaping big invasive gov't. Health care is a life or death issue, but it is also a privelege not a right. If you have a job chances are you are covered. If you work for a living chances are you can afford to get coverage. This bill is essentialy mandating to the rich, "go out and find 30 people less fortunate then you, take those people to the hospital and pay for their medical expenses...or else. "Reagan did raise taxes but he also lowered taxes during his term. The net effect may be an increase but nothing like what we'll see from this bill. Also, Reagan was fighting massive inflation in the 80's. Since you lived 6 years under Reagan you know interest rates hit upwards of 20%. Ultimately the dollar was saved because of these policies...look it up. Once you get into the private sector you'll understand. Companies are leaving the US because of our ridiculous taxes, i'm seeing it first hand. Corporate tax rates are soon to be 40% not including payroll taxes just for having employees, state taxes, city taxes, business property taxes. What does this all mean, more unemployment for the US. Anyone with good financial knowledge knows that this kind of spending won't last for long. Why do you think gold hit $1,200 an oz.? There are things at work here that many don't understand. The problem is they don't understand and they don't care. If they can get something for free, why not. The Democrats are pandering to this mentality in the hopes of insuring 30 million people and winning 30 million votes.
mnocketMar 27, 2010
@YarghThey can't provide them. They don't exist.