boston.com — "As the oldest son, Tagg Romney commandeered the way-back of the wagon, keeping his eyes fixed out the rear window, where he glimpsed the first sign of trouble. ''Dad!'' he yelled. ''Gross!'' A brown liquid was dripping down the back window, payback from an Irish setter who'd been riding on the roof in the wind for hours."
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gandhi2Jun 28, 2007
Seeing as how JFK never had to answer for the cruelty of the Catholic church, the years upon years of Inquisition, of forced conversion of foreign natives, of dozens of politically motivated papal decrees, practices of pardoning, paying off of priests, and many other evils and ills of Catholic dogma, all of which has provably no basis in Jesus' teaching, nor that of his disciples...I don't really think that it's fair to ask that of each candidate.Should all the Protestant presidential candidates be force to apologize for the actions of the Puritans(see also: Salem Witch Trials)? How about Jews, and the cruel and harsh rituals and practices(see also: moral dictates, stoning, gender intolerance) of the 5th century B.C. and earlier?This is not a fight you can win, and it is ignorant and mundane to attempt to smear a candidate based on his religious views. It's equitable to attempting to smear Obama for being black, or Hillary for being a woman...two traits which will have more impact on presidential policy than religion will, by the way. All you can hope to keep saying is "Look, he's just so...MORMON!! See, there, he's being a MORMON... His Mormon-ness is undeniably MORMON!!" It shouldn't in reality play any role at all in politics, and anybody who focuses on it as a political issue is just plain dumb. Can't sugar-coat the assessment, really. You are in fact simply an idiot for caring so much about this, when it is really not an important fact.
prisoner24601Jun 29, 2007
I'll try again..."First, whether it's race, sex preference, gender, hair color, age, religion, or artistic taste: none of these personal choices or personal qualities should bear at all any weight in public policy."I'm not sure if you're just saying that's what you think, or saying that *I* stated anything along those lines. For clarity's sake, I'll say I flatly reject your statement because you mix traits that are "voluntary choices" in with "genetic qualities." What a person *chooses* is incredibly relevant, and if they *choose* to believe the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man is the ruling moral authority of the universe, then I maintain it is perfectly right and reasonable for me to reject them as unfit to serve as president on the basis that they are insane.We are debating the idea that there is some line between "reasonable faith" (a belief system that someone can have and yet should be still considered a rational individual) and "irrational faith" (a belief system that is so blatantly a fabrication that the very act of holding to it deems the adherent unfit for certain positions.)I recognize that *you* feel *all* faith is in the second category. You claim that my feeling that Mormonism or Scientology are in the second category, not the first, is simply a "bigoted" view motivated out of some strange fixation against Mormonism in particular. (I have to wonder what it is that you think that might be? I have some particular aversion to white shirts and neckties? I was involved in a skiing accident in Utah and blame Mormons for it? I really have no idea...)Mormonism, Scientology, Heaven's Gate, etc. are faiths that are so demonstrably false they deserve to be "singled out" and shown top be the frauds they are. You (and other atheists) like to lump all faiths together. This only makes Evangelicals more determined than ever to point out the radical differences. Your efforts to try to dismiss the MANY factual fabrications of Mormonism are just a reflection of how "convenient" it is for you to keep "all that religious nonsense" in one basket to be easily chucked out the window at once.That, more than anything, is exactly why a Mormonism HAS to be forcefully and soundly refuted whenever it enters the sphere of "public debate" (as when a presidential candidate is a Mormon.) Simply put, it is a black eye on the face of all faith. It is an excuse for atheists to choose to believe nothing at all. It is an embarrassment to all theology.
frayed_knotJul 1, 2007
@insomniac8400At least the airlines put your pet INSIDE the plane. They don't strap it to the fuselage.Mitt showed some bad judgment there.
diggnationdevonJul 5, 2007
Romney is so conservative it's scary. Anyone see him in the debates?
masonconJul 7, 2007
Yeah, he scares me too. He reminds me of an animatronic robot. I definitely don't support robots for president.
justadudeJul 25, 2007
Yeah, no one who ever made a lot of money was ever ill-suited for public office!!! Hold on... s**t.
ebadgerJul 27, 2007
search digg for video footage of Mitt Romney and his dog
enlightenmentAug 11, 2007
<a class="user" href="http://www.i4m.com/think/southpark/">http://www.i4m.com/think/southpark/</a>
lodgelinksDec 31, 2007
Oddly enough, I was shot at.... while on my mission... yeah... a real gun, with real bullets.. Didn't hit me though. Not the same I know, but at least you got paid. I doubt it was done to avoid the draft however, since, you know, the church wouldn't let you, or you know, the draft is random, etc, etc. Not saying I'm a fan of MItt, but don't slam being a missionary, you learn a lot and it tends to mature you, if you do what you should anyway.
pbr90Jan 24, 2008
Need we ask who is destined to be the next dog on the roof in the upcoming 2008 campaign for President?It may be a small human interest story to Romney, and not worthy of reporting, but in reality, it is the observation of the village of the damned straight from the 1937 story of the Devil and Daniel Webster. That wasn't a human interest story but a huge commentary from the perspective of the damned.In a nation where "it's the economy stupid" quotes means everything, and where the widest disparity of income already exists, if you can't ride inside, there are a few spots on the outside; but everyone else is left to walk. Romney's exploitive business acumen and attitudes precedes him.What's really inside the Romney business machine but a replay of this incident?