rollingstone.com — Proof that Republicans prevented more then 350, 000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted--enough to have put John Kerry in the White House. A fascinating, factually accurate, and well written article.
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daguyJun 2, 2006
The quote is on the first page of the scan, third paragraph down. "...And an unapologetic liberal Democrat named John Kerry would have won."Also, the second claim is cited if you continue reading into the next paragraph. Number 191.
helix400Jun 2, 2006
daGUY. Thanks for that info. You are definitely correct. Dangit, and I scanned that document three times. Can't believe I missed it. As for the second, the reference does not support the claim anywhere of someone mentioning the threat being a "10 on a scale of 1 to 10". All you have is one small county that claimed it made vote counting secret for security reasons. The author, without any more facts, spun this as hard as he could, flat out saying GOP members colluded with Blackwell to count the votes in secret, and delay the votes enough to find any extra necessary Bush votes. Of course, he has no proof of any of this. His only evidence is just one small county doing the recount in secret. But that doesn't stop him from stroking his conspiracy theory.Let me put it another way. This author has detailed a number of interesting scenarios, which, while doesn't constitute hard proof, seems to persuade the reader. Well I remember a similar thing not long ago. A few years ago, countless people had near absolute proof that Iraq had WMD. Nobody had the hard proof, but it seemed good enough. But we all know what happened in reality there. The moral of the story is, I want hard proof. This conjecture and heresay conspiracy theory stuff doesn't convince me.
Closed AccountJun 2, 2006
I don't think the election was stolen... the American people are just idiots and the system is broken and corrupt.
alextimingJun 2, 2006
When will we, the American people, realize that America is under attack from within. We have lost, no we've given, are rights away. The Constitution is no longer valid. If you disagree with that last statement, then just look on Digg for Constitution. (<a class="user" href="http://digg.com/search?search=constitution&submit=Search&area=promoted&type=both&age=60&search-buried=on)">http://digg.com/search?search=constitution&submit=Search&area=promoted&type=both&age=60&search-buried=on)</a>What will it take to push people to the point of doing something about it?Didn't we just have an event like Pearl Harbor? But unlike in World War 2, our actions were to give up on our freedoms rather then fight FOR them. What about all those over in the Middle East? Those that have died, what did they die for? So that the President could spy on us? So that the NSA could gather intel on the American people?We don't fight terrorism by letting our government spy on us and by allowing a person, G. Bush, to steal what is one of our most cherished rights. To allow everyone a voice to decide who becomes President.
paladin144Jun 2, 2006
Over the last year or so I have come to believe that this election (and 2000) was probably rigged. It's a horrible realization, not one that I enjoy thinking about. But it's really the only explaination. And once you accept that they had the gall to rig an election (and a presidential election at that), you have to wonder what else they're up to. The Bush Cabal is bad news, people. I hate to break Godwin's law, but we're dealing with a fascist regime here. They obviously have no scruples and are willing to destroy democracy to get what they want. The question is: What Do They Want?Well, it all boils down to one thing: Power. These power-hungry trolls need to be removed from office immediately. We've got to open the books on everything -- EVERYTHING they did while in power and re-examine it in light of these allegations. This is a dark time for America. I pray we make it through with our Constitution intact.
helix400Jun 2, 2006
"If you knew anything about statistics and probability theory" I actually do know quite a bit about statistics and polling. It was my favorite areas of study for my math degree, and as I taught it to high school students as a teacher.To say it was a statistical impossiblity is flat out oversimplifying the question. It is easy to achieve "statistically impossible" probabilities when you get to cherry pick the conditions, as this author did. The early papers I read on exit poll descrepencies were not convincing at all. I have not yet seen any of the newer ones, but plan on reading them.
janeregained1Jun 9, 2006
Scarry stuff.
vermifaxAug 31, 2006
Bush won the battle. He hasn't won the war.