news.cnet.com— The heated battle between Apple and Adobe Systems over Flash may get a bit more interesting, as reports of a Flash alternative being developed by Apple begin to surface.
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The Flash specification is an open standard as far as I know. The Adobe Flash Player is the problem. There exist lightweight PDF reader alternatives to Adobe Acrobat. There can be lightweight alternatives to Flash Player.
We don't "Need" a plug-in free environment although that would be in many ways preferable to the current mess. This idea isn't a plug-in per say anyway. All the features would be implemented by your chosen browser rather than a plug-in runtime and you would be free to switch unlike with Flash.Adlib extensible architectures aren't all bad. The IML component would allow efficient native execution. Since the code to memory is handled by the OS, you don't need an elevated plug-in with rights to do such things. The "plug-in" could never have more privilege than the browser that implements it's functionality.It's not practical to do everything that would be beneficial in HTML. While the document viewer standard has expanded some what, incorporated scripts like JavaScript just aren't suitable for many valid applications. Say if you wanted to have Skype (or any other VOIP) Access from within browsers then it can't be done merely with HTML and javascript. There is no way in hell Skype Protocols are going to become part of the HTML standard.Perhaps the idea could be further wound back to just IML and HTML scripts could call IML generated functions which are incapable of accessing platform API functions. Just processing data structures and return values.
"What I will never understand is how there are so many people that keep choosing the Mac platform for running Adobe's suite of design products."It's because a lot of creative people, care about aesthetics not only in the work that they do, but in the environment they inhabit.
Get a clue, then come back. Some guy made some animated spiderman cartoon using the tech you listed to prove you could do it without flash. It took him 100 hours and he's a damn web dev. In flash it would have taken maybe 2 hours. So don't tell me something that takes over 10 times the amount of time would TAKE OFF.
It only took 100+ hours because he had to code the whole thing by hand. Flash has a pretty nifty IDE that is very useful for animations. Once there is a IDE like that for HTML5 advanced layouts and animations are really going to take off.
Flash videos are pathetic compared to QuickTime. With QuickTime, it updates the image as you drag position thumb back and forth; not so flash. Flash videos are very fuzzy. QuickTime, H.264, and MPEG-4 videos are not. This has always been very evident.
Closed AccountMay 9, 2010
The Flash specification is an open standard as far as I know. The Adobe Flash Player is the problem. There exist lightweight PDF reader alternatives to Adobe Acrobat. There can be lightweight alternatives to Flash Player.
myztryMay 10, 2010
We don't "Need" a plug-in free environment although that would be in many ways preferable to the current mess. This idea isn't a plug-in per say anyway. All the features would be implemented by your chosen browser rather than a plug-in runtime and you would be free to switch unlike with Flash.Adlib extensible architectures aren't all bad. The IML component would allow efficient native execution. Since the code to memory is handled by the OS, you don't need an elevated plug-in with rights to do such things. The "plug-in" could never have more privilege than the browser that implements it's functionality.It's not practical to do everything that would be beneficial in HTML. While the document viewer standard has expanded some what, incorporated scripts like JavaScript just aren't suitable for many valid applications. Say if you wanted to have Skype (or any other VOIP) Access from within browsers then it can't be done merely with HTML and javascript. There is no way in hell Skype Protocols are going to become part of the HTML standard.Perhaps the idea could be further wound back to just IML and HTML scripts could call IML generated functions which are incapable of accessing platform API functions. Just processing data structures and return values.
isaaccsMay 11, 2010
"What I will never understand is how there are so many people that keep choosing the Mac platform for running Adobe's suite of design products."It's because a lot of creative people, care about aesthetics not only in the work that they do, but in the environment they inhabit.
t2afMay 11, 2010
you do realise apple barely makes any money from the app store .. how does that fit into you idiotic rant ?
jtmonMay 11, 2010
Get a clue, then come back. Some guy made some animated spiderman cartoon using the tech you listed to prove you could do it without flash. It took him 100 hours and he's a damn web dev. In flash it would have taken maybe 2 hours. So don't tell me something that takes over 10 times the amount of time would TAKE OFF.
phogasmicMay 11, 2010
It only took 100+ hours because he had to code the whole thing by hand. Flash has a pretty nifty IDE that is very useful for animations. Once there is a IDE like that for HTML5 advanced layouts and animations are really going to take off.
mi2miMay 14, 2010
Apple's position seems to contradict this description of Flash on its own website:<a class="user" href="http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/internet_utilities/adobeflashplayer.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/internet_uti ...</a>Flash - "The standard for delivering high-impact, rich web content...deployed immediately across all browsers and platforms"<a class="user" href="http://www.edutube.org/blog/apple-being-contradictory-when-it-comes-flash" rel="nofollow">http://www.edutube.org/blog/apple-being-contradict ...</a>
johnnysoftwareMay 20, 2010
Flash videos are pathetic compared to QuickTime. With QuickTime, it updates the image as you drag position thumb back and forth; not so flash. Flash videos are very fuzzy. QuickTime, H.264, and MPEG-4 videos are not. This has always been very evident.