The people who compare flight 427 with this one crack me up. Look at the f**kin' pictures. Plane crashes (especially ones powerful enough to cause "vaporization") Cause something called FIRE DAMAGE. Huge f**kin' explosions and s**t. Yet the 93 "crash site" is all green grass and white debris. Some people are retarded.
Only in all those crashes I can see bits of airplane. I saw this supposed crashsite of flight 93 and didn't. Neither did the press there going on record as saying that they couldn't tell that a plane had crashed there.
Ok, I'm late responding to my critics, but what the hell-As an engineer who lived in Arlington and happened to be visiting New York at the time of the attacks, I can tell you this:The collapse of the WTC towers was a direct result of their design simply not being able to withstand impacts on of the magnitude they experienced. Nothing about how they collapsed, from a structure engineering standpoint, was in any way odd.The damage to the Pentagon was, as well, consistent with an aircraft of 757 size striking the ground immediately in front of the building and burying itself within. As for flight 93. There is no secret, an intercept was ordered. Anyone who lives north-west of DC heard two sharp claps as two F-16's out of Andrews made a super-sonic intercept. The official record is that "Tally ho" was never called, and they never made visual contact with the aircraft. Is this true? I don't know... I know that if I was the pilot of that interceptor, The act of targeting and launching on a civilian aircraft is not something I would want the world to know I ever had to do. I also know that the impact occurred sufficiant distance from DC, that there would have been more than enough time for them to engage in a proper intercept and attempt to divert the aircraft before resorting to such extreme measures. Now, whether or not this is how it happened, I have no evidence, and no, I don't know.Now. NONE of this makes any attributions to the _cause_ of the events of that day. I also know that there is a not-secret authoritarian sect in the government who has shamelessly used the event to capitalize on people's irrational fear and subvert American Freedoms. Whether or not they orchestrated this tragedy _IS INDEED_ a very frightening possibility, and one that needs to be researched and considered passionately. These are dangerous times, and all possibilities WITHIN THE REALM OF RATIONALITY need to be considered.However.Going on and on with faulty rationale about clam-baked beliefs about the actual events of that day do _NOTHING_ to help the cause of those concerned about any nefarious nature of their intent. Peoples lack of understanding about structure design and physics DO NOT MAKE the rational outcomes of those engineering disciplines anything else. Your lack of understanding does not equate to new truth. Get over it. By obsessing over trivial, flawed aspects of 9/11, the entire conspiracy movement undermines the whole f**king point, and only serves to further shield those who might have had a hand in causing this tradgedy (or, if it was indeed as it was described, only emboldens those who might try something similar into the future - why should they worry about being exposed, when the majority of those who might expose them can't even grasp simple physics? see they're all idiots, nothing to see here, move along, move along...THAT is why I find all of this crap so distasteful.
There is absolutely no question that the fall of WTCs 1, 2, and 7 were all controlled demolition. There are only a couple of hypotheses for people having your opinion at this point:1. Incapacity to see2. Incapacity to think3. Incapacity to face the factsPlease see the DVD: 911 Eyewitness... There has not been made a better scientific analysis of these events. I feel sorry for all of you who are still deluded by the lies perpetrated in the media.
dukeeeeyMay 27, 2007
Rumsfeld said it got shot down<a class="user" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0</a>Judging by the video in the topic .. what Rumsfeld says makes sense.So much for the 'official' 911 story.
Closed AccountMay 28, 2007
The people who compare flight 427 with this one crack me up. Look at the f**kin' pictures. Plane crashes (especially ones powerful enough to cause "vaporization") Cause something called FIRE DAMAGE. Huge f**kin' explosions and s**t. Yet the 93 "crash site" is all green grass and white debris. Some people are retarded.
jll3sonexMay 28, 2007
Dammit - again, there's someone bringing logic to a 'believe it or not' post.
albionshoresMay 30, 2007
Only in all those crashes I can see bits of airplane. I saw this supposed crashsite of flight 93 and didn't. Neither did the press there going on record as saying that they couldn't tell that a plane had crashed there.
stallion4Jun 2, 2007
Hi phillesh69. That order from Cheney was for the aircraft that hit the Pentagon. Not 93.<a class="user" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y</a>More 93 footage here:<a class="user" href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/8954">http://www.911blogger.com/node/8954</a>
eridanmanJun 19, 2007
Ok, I'm late responding to my critics, but what the hell-As an engineer who lived in Arlington and happened to be visiting New York at the time of the attacks, I can tell you this:The collapse of the WTC towers was a direct result of their design simply not being able to withstand impacts on of the magnitude they experienced. Nothing about how they collapsed, from a structure engineering standpoint, was in any way odd.The damage to the Pentagon was, as well, consistent with an aircraft of 757 size striking the ground immediately in front of the building and burying itself within. As for flight 93. There is no secret, an intercept was ordered. Anyone who lives north-west of DC heard two sharp claps as two F-16's out of Andrews made a super-sonic intercept. The official record is that "Tally ho" was never called, and they never made visual contact with the aircraft. Is this true? I don't know... I know that if I was the pilot of that interceptor, The act of targeting and launching on a civilian aircraft is not something I would want the world to know I ever had to do. I also know that the impact occurred sufficiant distance from DC, that there would have been more than enough time for them to engage in a proper intercept and attempt to divert the aircraft before resorting to such extreme measures. Now, whether or not this is how it happened, I have no evidence, and no, I don't know.Now. NONE of this makes any attributions to the _cause_ of the events of that day. I also know that there is a not-secret authoritarian sect in the government who has shamelessly used the event to capitalize on people's irrational fear and subvert American Freedoms. Whether or not they orchestrated this tragedy _IS INDEED_ a very frightening possibility, and one that needs to be researched and considered passionately. These are dangerous times, and all possibilities WITHIN THE REALM OF RATIONALITY need to be considered.However.Going on and on with faulty rationale about clam-baked beliefs about the actual events of that day do _NOTHING_ to help the cause of those concerned about any nefarious nature of their intent. Peoples lack of understanding about structure design and physics DO NOT MAKE the rational outcomes of those engineering disciplines anything else. Your lack of understanding does not equate to new truth. Get over it. By obsessing over trivial, flawed aspects of 9/11, the entire conspiracy movement undermines the whole f**king point, and only serves to further shield those who might have had a hand in causing this tradgedy (or, if it was indeed as it was described, only emboldens those who might try something similar into the future - why should they worry about being exposed, when the majority of those who might expose them can't even grasp simple physics? see they're all idiots, nothing to see here, move along, move along...THAT is why I find all of this crap so distasteful.
Closed AccountDec 3, 2007
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There is absolutely no question that the fall of WTCs 1, 2, and 7 were all controlled demolition. There are only a couple of hypotheses for people having your opinion at this point:1. Incapacity to see2. Incapacity to think3. Incapacity to face the factsPlease see the DVD: 911 Eyewitness... There has not been made a better scientific analysis of these events. I feel sorry for all of you who are still deluded by the lies perpetrated in the media.