I often wonder what would happen in a case like this. If the password is long enough, and the encryption is strong enough, short of a super computer or a government back door (anyone seen my tinfoil cap?) it would be impossible to decrypt the contents of the hard drive. What would happen then? Would the judge order you to turn over the keys? Can't you plead the fifth on the grounds of self-incrimination? And what if you changed a bunch of passwords at the last minute and genuinely don't remember any of them, what then?
based on what the riaa has been doing latly i'd have to say that they think way to much of themselves, everyone hates them, i mean do the people who work for the riaa support this s**t, everyone who works for them should just get up and quit, i bet half the people who work for the riaa download music illegally too and everything of the nature that their solely against, not even half i bet most except, for the top people.
"Don't Copy that Floppy!"Seriously, though...I think the only reason they care now and didn't 20 years ago is quality degradation. A 7th-generation (copy of a copy of a copy of a...)mix tape sounds like sh*t. The dyes in CDRs decay at amazingly fast rates unless cared for meticulously [disc rot], and even then will degrade over time via repeated application of a laser.On the converse, a 7th generation MP3 sounds like...an MP3. Well, unless the people passing them around are dumb enough to decode and re-encode them each time.But in the end, I see it boiling down to 3 factors:1) The price for music is way too high. Most people are, by nature, honest...and more importantly, will take the path of least resistance. Hardly anyone makes their own candy bars...when a candy bar is less than a buck, why go through all the trouble? iTunes is proof of this. It's convenient...right there at the same computer they'd be using to download. It's cheap...at less than a buck a song, why go through the trouble of sifting through poisoned uploads, low-quality uploads, virus-laden uploads, porn disguised as music, etc?. The price is close, given the number of people that use Apple's service...but if copying is still that rampant, then the price is still too high. For $45 I can get MAYBE 3 hours of new music, or I can get a 'released a few months ago' game that will give me anywhere between 10 and 60 hours of new experiences. If i get 3 used video games at $15 each, I can get 30-180 hours of new experiences. I think it's pretty obvious which has the most value for the dollar there.2) Music in-jewel-case is a pain in the neck to get. People want instant gratification, and there's none to be had in that case. Drive to store. Browse through discs that are invariably on the wrong shelves, mixed around when they're supposed to be alphabetized, not carried for being popular enough, not carried for being unable to pony up the bribe money [err..."compete for shelf space'], are too new, are too old, or are just plain out of stock. Find what you want. Wait in line while clerk gossips with her friends. Pay the clerk that doesn't care about her job. Get home. Find out some stockroom-jockey swapped the disc you were supposed to get with the disc in the case. Drive back to the store. Argue with the clerk. Argue with the manager. Pray that the manager will think you're being honest instead of trying to scam them. Get repacement disc. Go home. Listen to music. -OR-Go online. Find an internet retailer that carries it. Pay for purchase. Wait 3-14 days for arrival. Open box. Pray order isn't wrong / disc isn't damaged / disc wasn't delivered to the wrong house.Either way, they can't compete with the simplicity of Point-click-get [or buy]...places like iTunes are the singular hope for the music industry to stay alive in an era of ever-increasing convenience.3) Backlash. The popularity of 'sticking it to the man' has become incredibly popular in the wake of RIAA acting in ways that'd make Al Capone have a mobgasm. Normally honest people, fed up with the offensive news of 'latest stunt of RIAA', caught up in a mob mentality and doing it for the sake of 'getting back' at them.I'm not advocating it...but I understand why.
brstilsonApr 2, 2007
haven't you heard? corporations are the new government. They're constitutionally-exempt.
hukedonfonixApr 2, 2007
I often wonder what would happen in a case like this. If the password is long enough, and the encryption is strong enough, short of a super computer or a government back door (anyone seen my tinfoil cap?) it would be impossible to decrypt the contents of the hard drive. What would happen then? Would the judge order you to turn over the keys? Can't you plead the fifth on the grounds of self-incrimination? And what if you changed a bunch of passwords at the last minute and genuinely don't remember any of them, what then?
germanopinionApr 2, 2007
CAWPIN asked for the screenshots:they are marked as exhibit 12 that are linked at the RIAA-"expert" deposition<a class="user" href="http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/03/deposition-of-riaas-expert-available.html">http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/03/deposition-of-riaas-expert-available.html</a>warning: screenshots are ugly big pdf file!!
hbgreenApr 3, 2007
no this it what you need to do<a class="user" href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=aKQIMlcX9Ko">http://youtube.com/watch?v=aKQIMlcX9Ko</a>
sunhazeApr 3, 2007
Gah the RIAA is doing some pretty rediculous s**t now days. How about focusing on productive law enforcement..
xshad0wApr 3, 2007
based on what the riaa has been doing latly i'd have to say that they think way to much of themselves, everyone hates them, i mean do the people who work for the riaa support this s**t, everyone who works for them should just get up and quit, i bet half the people who work for the riaa download music illegally too and everything of the nature that their solely against, not even half i bet most except, for the top people.
raybeckermanApr 3, 2007Submitter
Dear CAWPINThe screenshot is exhibit 12 here:<a class="user" href="http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/03/deposition-of-riaas-expert-available.html">http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/03/deposition-of-riaas-expert-available.html</a>Best regards,Ray
raybeckermanApr 3, 2007Submitter
They are being held liable for the defendant's attorneys fees in Capitol v. Foster<a class="user" href="http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com#Capitol_v_Foster">http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com#Capitol_v_Foster</a>See February 6, 2007, decision
cliffordmerkelMay 14, 2007
Good. Who's able to open the link?
hcprogramrJun 25, 2009
I wasn't aware you were on Digg, good sir...Thank you for all you've done in the name of sane Copyright law.
hcprogramrJun 25, 2009
"Don't Copy that Floppy!"Seriously, though...I think the only reason they care now and didn't 20 years ago is quality degradation. A 7th-generation (copy of a copy of a copy of a...)mix tape sounds like sh*t. The dyes in CDRs decay at amazingly fast rates unless cared for meticulously [disc rot], and even then will degrade over time via repeated application of a laser.On the converse, a 7th generation MP3 sounds like...an MP3. Well, unless the people passing them around are dumb enough to decode and re-encode them each time.But in the end, I see it boiling down to 3 factors:1) The price for music is way too high. Most people are, by nature, honest...and more importantly, will take the path of least resistance. Hardly anyone makes their own candy bars...when a candy bar is less than a buck, why go through all the trouble? iTunes is proof of this. It's convenient...right there at the same computer they'd be using to download. It's cheap...at less than a buck a song, why go through the trouble of sifting through poisoned uploads, low-quality uploads, virus-laden uploads, porn disguised as music, etc?. The price is close, given the number of people that use Apple's service...but if copying is still that rampant, then the price is still too high. For $45 I can get MAYBE 3 hours of new music, or I can get a 'released a few months ago' game that will give me anywhere between 10 and 60 hours of new experiences. If i get 3 used video games at $15 each, I can get 30-180 hours of new experiences. I think it's pretty obvious which has the most value for the dollar there.2) Music in-jewel-case is a pain in the neck to get. People want instant gratification, and there's none to be had in that case. Drive to store. Browse through discs that are invariably on the wrong shelves, mixed around when they're supposed to be alphabetized, not carried for being popular enough, not carried for being unable to pony up the bribe money [err..."compete for shelf space'], are too new, are too old, or are just plain out of stock. Find what you want. Wait in line while clerk gossips with her friends. Pay the clerk that doesn't care about her job. Get home. Find out some stockroom-jockey swapped the disc you were supposed to get with the disc in the case. Drive back to the store. Argue with the clerk. Argue with the manager. Pray that the manager will think you're being honest instead of trying to scam them. Get repacement disc. Go home. Listen to music. -OR-Go online. Find an internet retailer that carries it. Pay for purchase. Wait 3-14 days for arrival. Open box. Pray order isn't wrong / disc isn't damaged / disc wasn't delivered to the wrong house.Either way, they can't compete with the simplicity of Point-click-get [or buy]...places like iTunes are the singular hope for the music industry to stay alive in an era of ever-increasing convenience.3) Backlash. The popularity of 'sticking it to the man' has become incredibly popular in the wake of RIAA acting in ways that'd make Al Capone have a mobgasm. Normally honest people, fed up with the offensive news of 'latest stunt of RIAA', caught up in a mob mentality and doing it for the sake of 'getting back' at them.I'm not advocating it...but I understand why.
johnnysoftwareJul 1, 2009
Dude, what the heck is with the asterisks in the site domain name of that URL? Is that URL a joke?